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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am so glad that there are still people in this world who can see and determine for themselves that some things are clearly unjust and need to stop. In this age of whataboutism and people with no moral compass, I can see why OP is struggling with Tutu's quote.

1) was the holocaust something we should have stopped OP? 
2) was slavery something that should have been abolished?
3) if you see a man, beating his wife and her unable to defend herself because he is twice her size, do you ask yourself what she did to provoke him? [/quote]

This is exactly the simplistic moralizing that causes people like OP to not want to engage with you. [/quote]

I feel like two groups are talking past each other. One group is saying when there is injustice, it's wrong to be silent. The other group is saying it's not always easy to determine injustice.

As a person who has participated in this thread in the first group, I don't disagree with the second point. I just don't think it negates the point of the first group. It's entirely possible for both groups to be right.

I've yet to hear anyone say that it's ALWAYS obvious when injustice is occurring. But I also am not hearing the second group acknowledge that sometimes it IS. It does start to feel like the second group would question if they should speak up against, say, child abuse. I'm sure nobody intends to come across that way but what wirhout that acknowledgement it's starting to feel like it. [/quote]

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