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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Have any of you considered ever being satisfied with your kids’ actual abilities rather than constantly trying to game the system to effectively buy them the results for skills they don’t possess?

Just a thought.[/quote]

Have you considered that the results of taking a standardized test once or twice might not actually reflect a kid’s actual abilities?

Just a thought.

You sanctimonious a$$.[/quote]

+1. Not to mention, I love the implication that studying more and improving on something after that studying or tutoring is “Gaming the system.” Because what we really want to teach our kids is: If at first you don’t succeed, just give up because you clearly don’t possess the skills. [/quote]

You fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of a test like the SAT. [/quote]

Then please share with me the purpose. It’s not an IQ test, or you could give it to kids when they’re in elementary school. [b]If it’s to see if they have a mastery of material THAT SOMEONE HAD TO TEACH THEM,[/b] then why is it gaming the system for someone to teach them in advance of the test. [/quote]

I know you’re confused because of all the private tutoring and “teaching to the test” that has been the very foundation of your precious Larlo’s education, but the bolded is absolutely NOT accurate.

No, it’s not an IQ test.  It is more of an evaluation of general knowledge and more importantly, critical thinking skills.  You are lacking in the latter, so I will guess that you took the SAT many times and did GREAT  :roll: [/quote]

Actually, I took it once and did really well. I just didn't ascribe that to any mental superiority. I had friends who had to take it several times and I knew it wasn't because they were lacking intellectually. I knew these things because I have critical thinking skills. It's amusing, though, that you're ego seems more wrapped up in thinking that either you or your child is superior based on taking a test once instead of two or three times. I'm just curious, since you say that these are tests of general knowledge, where did you and your child come by this general knowledge? Were you just born knowing it? If so, I'll happily concede that you are special. Not many are born knowing algebra. But if you acquired this general knowledge because someone taught it to you, then your response was not the clever rebuttal you thought it was. [/quote]

You want it both ways.  Your argument boils down to: The score is *not* reflective of actual ability when your kid doesn’t do well, but the score *is* reflective of actual ability when your child DOES do well.  Which is why you need Larlo to keep taking that test until they get their “real” score, i.e. the one that somehow demonstrates they’re Ivy material, right?[/quote]

Different PP. If you look at the SAT Suite of Assessments report, you see that whites and Asians do better than blacks, and in particular only 1% of black test-takers score in the 1400-1600 range (compared to 25% of Asian test-takers). In addition, male test takers do better at math at the high end (about twice as many men get over 700 math than do women).

So my question for you is: do these disparities in performance reflect actual ability? 25% of Asian test-takers are "Ivy material" but only 1% of black test-takers?[/quote]

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