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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No one cares.  I wish MCSL and PMSL would just merge, or create an east and a west.[/quote]

NP - I care!  How many teams are in PMSL?[/quote]

Not many.  23-25.  Some of the teams are TINY though[/quote]

Good to know, thanks!  I’m all for expanding MCSL, and if the geographic division thing reduces driving time, so much the better.[/quote]

I don’t think the PrinceMont teams want to be in MCSL. [/quote]

+1 -- these leagues have different histories, different rules, and different feels; they should not merge[/quote]

I'd love to learn more than the PMSL website (or the MCSL one, for that matter) tells about the leagues!  Talk to me.[/quote]

PMSL was the first racially-integrated summer swim league in this area, and it continues to be much more diverse than MCSL -- both racially and geographically (with teams from Montgomery County, PG County, Howard County, Charles County, AA County, Calvert County, and DC). In MCSL, the teams have A meets on Saturdays and B meets on Wednesdays. That means the team is divided for meets with the better swimmers at the A meets and everyone else at the B meets. PMSL only has one meet on Saturdays with everyone together. This means PMSL meets last longer, but there's not a hierarchy/division within the team as is often the case with MCSL teams. In PMSL there's not a question each week about who is going to make the A meet.

MCSL is more competitive and intense at the upper divisions with swimmers wearing tech suits to dual meets. PMSL is generally lower key with people understanding this is summer swim and the purpose is to have fun (although there are still some very fast/competitive swimmers in the league). There's also a difference in the events swum at the meets. PMSL events include 100IM and 100 free (for 15-18) but everything else is 50s. MCSL swims 100IM, 100 free, 100 breast, 100 back + 50 fly. This means non year-round swimmers can often be more competitive in PMSL because they can swim a fast 50 fly, etc. [/quote]

In MCSL, do A meet swimmers get to swim B meets too? [/quote]

Since B meets aren’t “MCSL” meets each team makes their own rules. Remember the main point is for kids who don’t qualify to swim saturday mornings to get a chance to either benchmark their improvement or possibly bump someone out of an A spot. Some teams allow anyone to swim something they didn’t get a time in. Some teams make you swim up an age level if you did 2 or more events etc. it’s all up to the team. But the point is most teams have a way to exclude the kids who swim a lot of A meets from getting ribbons - the idea being they get plenty from the A meets. [/quote]

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