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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]FWIW my understanding is that most countries in Europe and around the world that we could consider to be similar to us in quality of life and culture do have a middle of the road, sensible view on abortion. They almost always ban late term abortions (beyond point of viability) without serious medical reasons, and they allow early term abortions without question.

I don’t know why we can’t do that too![/quote]

Europe has large loopholes on the post-viability abortion bans. Vast majority of them allow abortion past their legislated deadlines for any fetal abnormalities, mental health of mother, physical health of mother, viability of fetus, etc.

You can drive a truck through the European loopholes.

Oh, and they also have universal health coverage that PAYS for the abortion. So cost is not an issue in Europe. And - unlike in the US - you find out you're pregnant quite quickly because of universal health coverage. If you're poor in Europe, you can get an abortion very quickly because you're informed; there's no cost or knowledge reason for waiting late.

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That’s a fair point I hadn’t thought of, and I’d support free pregnancy tests here FWIW. In addition to free contraception.[/quote]

Here's France's laws. Lots of loopholes to the 14 week (actually 16 weeks) ban:

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Abortion in France is legal upon request until 14 weeks after conception (16 weeks after the pregnant woman's last menstrual period). Abortions at later stages of pregnancy up until birth are allowed if two physicians certify that the abortion will be done to prevent injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman; a risk to the life of the pregnant woman; or that the child will suffer from a particularly severe illness recognized as incurable.
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Since 1982, much of the costs of abortions are taken in charge by the French social security system, which [b]allows women in France to access abortion free of charge.[/b]
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There's no reason to get a late term abortion in France, because your medical care and the abortion itself is free of charge to the woman. And the late-term abortion ban has loopholes for medical reasons.

How sane and rational![/quote]

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