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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Stop pumping up an IVY safety. It is not good.  And there is no such thing as new Ivy.  There are 8 Ivies and Stanford, MIT, Cal Tech.  Duke is right below.  Chicago there too.  Nothing else is worth what is approaching 100k a year.  And for publics, only michigan, Cal, UVA, and now UCLA are really worth it.  There are only a handful of SLACs worth it. Amherst, Williams, Pomona, Swarthmore, Barnard (only because of Columbia association).  [/quote]

The ivies are not a single entity. Stanford, MIT, Caltech, and Duke are better than half the ivies. Similarly, a school like Rice or Vanderbilt could be seen as a peer to lower ivies like Dartmouth or Cornell.[/quote]

Nah[/quote]

I don't think that you understand the new realities... talented kids who would have been at the Ivies a short time ago are now at other schools, [b]since many spots are going to international students, children of migrant workers and homeless individuals, etc.[/b]  They must choose elsewhere and the caliber of a number of schools has risen in comparison to the Ivies.  It is the same with faculty.  Top schools are desperate to diversity their faculty, yet by far the majority of people graduating with PhDs are white, so those smart white graduates have to go somewhere.  A new landscape...[/quote]

What is really happening is the expressway for white, upper middle class kids has ended and now the student bodies will look more like a cross section of the USA.

If you have a problem with that, that is a you problem. No one is guaranteed a spot at an Ivy and the idea that white upper middle class parents are upset about it is quite a tell.[/quote]

DP but UMC white kids don’t get anything. Colleges think they’ll be fine wherever they go and pass right over them. It’s WEALTHY white kids who get in.  And PP doesn’t seem to have a problem with it - calling it an expressway is a dig. Breathe. [/quote]

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