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[quote=Anonymous]There is a lot of variation in the way an individual priest may run his parish, but it is true that Catholic is Catholic is Catholic. There is no "more liberal" or "more conservative" version. And getting involved with the idea that you can carve out some liberal secret society or lead some revolutionary change is a bit silly...

That already happened. It's called the reformation. The point of the Catholic church IS the hierarchy and the top-down leadership. If you mostly like the Catholic church but don't like the stance on gays and women priests, the good news is that there's a church for you, it's called the Episcopal Church! 80 percent same as the Catholic, especially the high Episcopal or Anglican subsets (because unlike the Catholic church w/it's heirarchy, the Episcopal/Anglican church DOES have a lot of variation).

All that said, I would argue very strongly that the Catholic church defies political classification. On issues like gay marriage and contraceptives and abortion, they are hard-core cave man right wing, but on issues like poverty and refugees they are some of the most admirable staunch advocates for doing what's right and showing mercy and generosity. And the schools, if you don't mind the churchy parts, are generally very good and while they will expose your kids to the churchy part, they are not evangelical and won't force your kids to believe anything.

So, IMHO, neither left nor right, neither good nor bad, but be realistic—the instiution and the structure ARE the point, and if you're looking for an edited version, don't waste your breath trying to edit them, go to one of the many Protestant spinoffs.[/quote]

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