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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A common factor of elite schools in the T20 other than the Publics is the really low student to faculty ratio ( of 6 to 7), on par with the Top LACs or even better (MIT is 3). The Publics like UCLA, UCB are at 19.[/quote]

This. Its not the T20 itself it is the size and intellectual quality of courses etc. william and Mary provides essentially the same environment as a T25 private. You cant go just on rank. [/quote]

As a parent of a Berkeley student, the quality and rigor of CS and math course are just amazing. The classes have prepared him incredibly well for interviews. He has two offers for summer internships - one from a large tech company and one from a quant fund paying 40k for 2.5 months. His friends have internships at Tesla, Amazon and Google but all of them have been working hard preparing for interviews. There are a lot of research opportunities but the kid has to seek those. What matters is not the college but the kid. Sure it's difficult from a big school but the competition is not less fierce at private schools either.[/quote]
IMO, proportionally, more kids at T10 expensive colleges have family/friends connections to get great internships and jobs than those at public universities.  It is about connections.  I don't think all those T10 kids are that much more smarter or accomplished than some of the highest achieving students at T20 or T50.

T10 admit is somewhat of a lottery after a certain threshold.[/quote]

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