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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Even when gone. Brabrand’s incompetence has had lasting effects. Compared to a decade ago 9 schools now vs 6 schools then are below the state average. A decade ago, the average FCPS student did 95 points better than the state average standardized to a 1600 scale compared to the average FCPS student only doing 68 points better state average. Every school district had to deal with the pandemic, etc, but Brabrand made things much worse than his peer superintendents.

School 2010 Totals
TJHSST 2200
Langley 1812
McLean 1778
Woodson 1738
Madison 1734
Oakton 1729
Marshall 1690
Robinson 1665
FCPS 1664
Chantilly 1663
West Springfield 1644
Herndon 1642
Lake Braddock 1639
Fairfax 1635
Westfield 1625
Centreville 1596
South Lakes 1578
South County 1572
West Potomac 1561
Stuart 1532
VIRGINIA 1521
Annandale 1518
Edison 1512
NATION 1509
Falls Church 1505
Lee 1504
Hayfield 1475
Mount Vernon 1458[/quote]

Not sure that your conclusion is correct.  A decade ago, there were far fewer ESOL/immigrant/FARM students in FCPS.  Which factor had a more significant impact -- a change in the demographics over the course of a decade?  Or a superintendent who was here for a few years?

The former is a known contributor to lower scores.  The latter is just your accusation.[/quote]

Sure you can say that. But almost every other county in the commonwealth has gotten more Hispanic, and Poorer, in this timeframe. No? There still needs to be some responsibility. [/quote]

Can you post the SAT scores for white students 10 yrs ago?  I know they used to have these on their website.  Then we can compare it to this year.  That's an apples-to-apples comparison.  If there really was a decrease due to a "Brabrand effect", it would show up in the group that IS NOT affected by language/immigration trauma/increasing-poverty.   [/quote]

DP - the FCTA has reports from 2017 to 2023, not a decade ago.

2017 was the year Brabrand was hired.  White kids scored 1221 on average that year.  They scored 1204 last year.  Scores went up before they went down as the reports show shows the following trend in the average scores for White kids:

2017:  1221
2018:  1238
2019:  1242
2020:  1235
2021:  1220
2022:  1209
2023:  1204

Scores for every other racial cohort also declined over that period, although by varying amounts (lesser declines among Asian and Black students and a greater decline among Hispanic students).

However, even with that information, your treatment of White students as a proxy for students not affected by "language/immigration trauma/increasing-poverty" may not be accurate, as the "White" cohort could include students fleeing countries like Afghanistan. [/quote]

So they went up and then, pandemic.[/quote]

+1. My DD (former Langley student) only took the SAT once and got a 1380.  She opted not to take it again because she knew she would go TO since she believed many of her peers would have ad higher scores.  Many students felt the same way, so it makes sense for the average SAT score to be lower than before the pandemic.  I think as more colleges get rid of TO, we are going to see SAT scores go up again.  As for the AP scores, she got 4s and 5s, but if the overall Langley average was lower, it's possible her peers prepped more for the SAT than for APs.[/quote]

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