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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Do people really not see their kids, or are involved in their kids'/grandkids' lives, in retirement? That makes me so so sad. [/quote]

Uh do you not live in the reality of ambitious people? LOTS of people here have kids who chased their dreams which took them to Silicon Valley or Europe or landed them in some fellowship in cardiac surgery which has them living in Wisconsin for the next 8 years. So no those kids aren't dropping by weekly for Sunday dinner, nor are the grandparents stopping by those grandkids school plays and soccer games every weekend. Sure when the kids have time off they may visit mom/dad a few times a year, but they also tend to have inlaws to visit plus their own vacations they want to take with just their nuclear families. I mean ideal would be your grown kids living in the area, stopping by all the time and then you don't have to "plan" your retirement at all because you'll be busy with kids and grandkids. But the surest way to misery is to plan on it working out that way, then having a kid who can't be brainwashed into staying in the area to take some leg affairs job just to be close to home who instead goes and launches a life someplace else. Sure you can follow your kid to wherever they land, but let's be real if kids want to be busy and not prioritize mom/dad, they won't - whether you live across the country or down the street.[/quote]

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