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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You are massively overvaluing the value of references.

References come in to the process once you have already been selected for the new role, IME. Reference checks are a formality these days as many places won’t give references, only confirm dates of employment. You can use a colleague, partner/vendor, or manager from a very long-ago job. You do not need this person.[/quote]

This 100%. The past two jobs I only had to give them HR's phone number so they could confirm my employment. I don't think I've had a real reference contacted in over a decade...

Just start looking for the new job OP. People are moving all the time. Don't overthink it.[/quote]

Most organizations don't allow for substantive references  beyond confirming that you worked there, that your title was what you said it was, that your dates of employment line up, etc. Plus if you've worked at your place for nearly a decade, the potential hiring employers KNOWS they can't reach out to your current boss for a reference if you're still working there. Let's say you take the route you are considering and quit and THEN look for a job. SO then they DO call your (now) former boss and she's pissed that you left and trashes you. What's better? No reference because you still work for the person (meaning you still have a nice VP job; weren't run out, weren't laid off...all pluses in a potential employer's eyes) or hoping for a good reference from your former employer when you don't have a job and the potential employers doesn't really know the circumstances of you no longer working there....stay employed. References don't count. [/quote]

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