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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]this has the potential to be a snark-free and interesting thread.  i will suggest, tho, that while the reasonable right-ish among us seem willing to accept some more taxation and some cuts to sacred cows, i don't often see the reasonable left offer up too much.  with most of the budget going to entitlements and defense, we just can't get there off "big oil" and "tax the rich"   the money is in the middle, and that's where the entitlements are as well.

on defense, I saw an interview w buffet/simpson/bowles the other day (saved on cnbc) and one pointed out we spend on defense more than the next 10 or so nations combined.  [/quote]

I am a die-hard liberal, and I am willing to forego my social security payments based on a means test of my wealth at retirement age.  I am willing to have medicare provided on a sliding scale based on income as well.  To me they should be insurance against being left poor and in the cold during my old age.  They are not necessary to pad my golden years if I am already rich.

As for your comment on what liberals are willing to give up, I think you should take a look at who is screaming over the automatic spending cuts.  Each side had an equal dollar amount put at stake from their sacred cows.  I will suggest to you that the side that is screaming most is willing to sacrifice the least.  And that would be the conservatives.

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