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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This pdf shows another school district calculates HOPE scores.  Not sure if this is what FCPS central committee does, but it is another way to look at it.

https://www.harlan.k12.ky.us/pdf/Gifted&TalentedForms/HopeScaleDirections.pdf

They add subtotals for Academic and social scale separately and don't combine them.

According to this, my child had 18 on academic scale and 10 on social scale.  I don't agree with my child's HOPE rating but would like to see how other kids are scored.

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If they go this way, it's not a horrible approach.  If we're assuming that the selection process is rational (it isn't), then it would make sense to use the "social scale" to boost children into AAP who don't otherwise have the test scores and academic scale scores needed to succeed in the program.  The social scale shouldn't be used to keep kids out of the program who have 150+ CogAT and 99th percentile iready.  On the academic side, the scale is pretty inherently flawed if it allows a teacher to rate a kid as anything other than the top rating when the kid is objectively above grade level has both aptitude and achievement scores in the 99th percentile.  The teacher's feelings should not be given more weight than the actual data.

The problem with GBRS and HOPE ratings is that most 2nd grade teachers don't really understand higher levels of giftedness and the negative behaviors that would be expected for highly gifted children bored out of their minds in a 2nd grade classroom.  A typical FCPS 2nd grade teacher would have a few mildly gifted kids each year and maybe 1 moderately gifted kid.  If you're looking at kids in the 99.9th percentile and higher, the average teacher would need to teach 40 years to even see one of those kids.  When they do see them, they don't even understand what they're seeing and would likely focus on the negative behaviors.  For a typical 2nd grade teacher, the kids they will identify as the most gifted are the kids who are bright but also have very high executive function and good social skills.  [/quote]

This. 100 percent. It would be ridiculous not to admit this child. OP, I think it is likely that they will because his score is so high. My youngest's score was 140 and had mediocre  GBRS scores and did not get in with a high WISC on appeal. That was a couple of year's ago, though. Maybe they care about the WISC again?[/quote]

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