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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It is the potential for life. It is not a human being.

I could lay before  you the million parts that make an automobile. But that is not a car, even though every piece that would make it a car is there.

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No offense, but this is incredibly ignorant and completely anti-science.  An "embryo" and "fetus" are both stages of human life -- period.  They are "alive" by any definition.  The car analogy is laughable.  A human life is created when an egg and sperm combine.  Before that, there is no life -- by definition.  Once they combine to create an embryo, that is a living human being -- again, by definition.

If it is not a living human being, what is it?  And then when does it become a human being?  Surely you can't base that on simply exiting the woman, so when?  Viability as the measure makes no sense because that keeps changing, and a baby is never viable on its own.  [/quote]

The answer is actually not absolute.   Different faiths believe different things.  Sorry that frustrates you but that is how it is.[/quote]

We aren't talking about faiths.  This is science.  An embryo and a fetus are living things, and they are not plants.  That isn't debatable.  So what living things are they?  They are obviously human, by definition.  Again, this is science, not religion.  You keep saying different "faiths," but then how would your "faith" define when something becomes "human" or is "human enough" to be worthy of protection? [/quote]

Christians believe life begins at conception.  Jews believe is it at first breath.    Others have other beliefs and that is allowed.[/quote]

Sure, other beliefs are "allowed," but they are anti-science.  You can debate whether humans have "souls" and maybe when that "soul" takes form.  But the question of human life is not debatable.  It is science.  An embryo and a fetus are simply early stages of human life.  Again, not debatable -- science. [/quote]

You can yammer on about "science" but even scientists aren't on your side.

And yes we kill people. Every day. Legally. People in comas are pulled off life support.

People have an absolute right to defend themselves from harm, including pregnancies.
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