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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous[b]]not at all shocking

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/16/health/grandparents-mother-depression-study-wellness/index.html[/quote][/b]

[b]OMG.  So we can BLAME EVERYONE for our inadequacies?  What every happened to "be better; do it; learn; sacrifice for your children., etc."[/quote]

Some of all that[/b] is good.

And some of it is 100% unrealistic.

Look at parenting throughout distant history. The way we do it now is really different than the way it was done for a very long time. As recently as 19th century England moms were kicking their 2 year olds outside to run with the neighborhood pack and basically only directly supervised their young toddlers and babies during the day (while they, admittedly, did a lot of very hands-on work to keep the household running). Standards for cleanliness were much lower before machines for cleaning. People had lots of kids because kids helped the family economy within several years, whereas today a kid will literally never help your family's financial status.[/quote]

[b]+1.  Everyone is a victim in our liberal society today[/b],  No one can be an adult and pick up and deal with their familial responsibilities.[/quote]

Honest to God.  J[b]ust stop whining[/quote][/b]

+1.  STOP[/quote]

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