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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Agree with others. It’s gotten tough but not THAT tough. With a 4.0 UW and over 1400 you’ll have plenty of options. I think the idea is just to have a few schools that would be likelies/safeties in case something really wonky happens with one of them. [/quote]

I hope you are right.  I've been seeing a lot of doomsday reports about admissions this year and it has us not feeling too great about next year.  [/quote]

People just need to be realistic and manage expectations.[/quote]

But what should the expectation be for a kid who challenged themselves with AP classes, excelled in sports, found time for volunteer work and employment in the summer? What is realistic?[/quote]

There is so much data out there. Plug it in and you’ll easily get a dozen realistic options for that kid. Many have been named already in this thread.[/quote]

Here's Kansas:

"University of Kansas has an acceptance rate of 88%. Half the applicants admitted to University of Kansas who submitted test scores have an SAT score between 1090 and 1340 or an ACT score of 21 and 28."
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I had an intern from the University of Kansas, and she was not very smart. I met her bf and he wasn't smart either. 
Choose your safeties carefully OP[/quote]

I've met some not so smart kids from T50 schools as well, so I'd gather it's not just the school, but the individual.  U of Kansas has plenty of smart kids, look at the honors program or the kids in the top 25%.  But yes, someone who only got a 21 on the ACT/1090 on the SAT are not going to be as smart as someone who got a 1340[/quote]

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