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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]All these post, and no one has bothered to mention what IBM is insisting on is three days a week in the office[/b]. So even folks who are “cracking down” are recognizing hybrid is where it’s at. This is not news.

Also, I would take this with a grain of salt. My sibling works for Disney and they also last spring put all this press out about how they were insisting four days a week in the office. Stock prices rose. My sibling has not gone four days in the office once. Now she does typically go two or three days a week, but has a lot of flexibility when she needs to leave early on those days.

Technology has changed and employees have spoken and work flexibility is here to stay. We are four years in folks -  stop fighting it.[/quote]
Did you miss the point that most of their workers don’t live near an IBM office because they’ve been closing them over the last 15 years? This is a stealth layoff and a way to avoid severance. You’re q sheep standing there baaaaahhhiinnngg “it’s just hybrid guys, come on!”. 🙄[/quote]

[b]That actually just reinforces my point even more[/b]. Companies who aren’t doing badly and laying off workers are allowing hybrid or work from home. Other companies like IBM are using it as an excuse to lay people off and then the rest of the people can work hybrid.[/quote]
No it doesn’t. And you have contradicted yourself now. First it’s just - ohhhhh this is just hybrid, new normal guys! But you had no idea that IBM doesn’t have offices to support hybrid work. So now it’s ohhh well only companies in financial trouble are doing this.[/quote]

What do you mean IBM does not have offices to support hybrid? Do they have office space or not? If you have office space you can presumably have people come in some days and not others which is what they were calling for. The article said three days a week in the office. I’m totally confused.

But I don’t understand what your point is. I work for remote first company and go in about once a month and travel to get together with my team or others in the company 2-3 times a year. Very few of our working parent friends in our neighborhood, kids sports teams, school friends, etc. are back in the office full-time. In fact, in our circle of friends, I can think of no one who goes in more than three times a week.   [/quote]

IBM has closed a lot of smaller regional offices. So people who previously had a commutable office no longer have one nearby. They’ve been remote since COVID (or even longer!) and now suddenly have to report to an office hundreds of miles away or lose their job.    Its really rough for people who have to travel for client interaction, but not enough to be on-site at the client 3 days/week.

This was of no fault by the employee. Basically IBM has reneged on long time corporate norms and BAU that people planned their lives around. [/quote]

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