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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The millions of immigrants talking point doesn’t make sense other than as a talking point.

Trump was President for four years. He had control of the house and senate when he came to power. He didn’t fix immigration. Some of the biggest obstacles to fixing immigration come from interests in his party.

So…why do you think he’ll fix it?

This point might have any intellectual resonance if it was “neither candidate currently running has made the progress I want on immigration” but it’s not a pro Trump point.

Unless you’re a troll.[/quote]

Is this gaslighting? Because illegal migration fell sharply under Turnip. *Sharply*. And the Democrats fought him tooth and nail the entire time. They opposed every single thing he did to control migration. Remember the children in cages they ranted and screamed about, never mind that it started under Obama?

When Biden took office, illegal migration exploded. Don't you remember the first caravan of 100k illegal migrants marching through Mexico telling the whole world they were going for the border and effectively daring Biden to let them in. And he did. And that sent a message to the world.

But it's hard not to believe that the reason illegal crossings have gotten out of control is because the WH really doesn't care and has no interest in doing anything about it because the policy makers and staffers are firm believers in open borders. Which is why they - do nothing - and sue the border states for actually doing something to control the tide of migration.

Regarding Turnip's popularity, when he was president, he by and large didn't do very much. Cut taxes and made noises about the border and the border wall with some noticeable effects, and did a lot of international diplomacy that, intentional or not, corresponded with a world that had no wars or invasions and yet breakthroughs like the Abrahamic Accords. He was derided for making noises about China and Russia that later turned out to be true (remember when the Germans hysterically blew him off when he told them not to build the Nord Stream pipeline as it would only embolden Putin? Har har). But at home, he left people alone. There was no massive swathes of new bureaucracy, new regulations, new policies, no cancel culture, no judging or shaming or pretending to have the higher moral road. He made fun of the progressive left, but he also left them alone at the same time.

One cannot say that about the Democrats under Biden. 
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Your complete disconnect from reality is disturbing.  This is why our country is going to hell...so many ignorant slubs convinced they know things after being brainwashed by the Right.  Trump is a liar, a criminal and a traitor and will only serve himself in a second term.  He will have no motivation to remain unchecked.  He will flush democracy down the toilet in his own self interest.  He is saying what he will do and it's all awful.[/quote]

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