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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What's an average MAP-M score for compacted Math in winter of 5th grade?[/quote]

It varies a lot based on schools and how much outside enrichment/exposure to topics that children have received. In my 5th grade class at a Title 1 school, the average is around 235. Within the class, there are a couple of students who score as low as the low 220's (which very much matches who should absolutely not be in the class) up to my highest student scoring 250.

I know from people on this site that this is not comprable to kids in the higher SES schools, but I'm quite proud of my students. They don't get extra support at home and work so hard and their scores reflect that![/quote]

Your average is 235 at a Title 1? Something isnt adding up here for sure.[/quote]

Do you think that is high or low?

In a Compacted 5-6 class, for kids who are actually ready for 5-6 and also not doing Math 8 Prealgebra at home, that's a normal average.

An average (nearly drowning) 5th grader scores 218, so CM kids should be scoring 1-2 years higher due to compaction (exposure) and to generally being better more able math students than average.

Bright kids who are studying enrichment at home / AOPS / RSM are getting up to 255 for "grade level enriched", or higher if they are already long been on an accelerated track and are now doing prealgebra or algebra(!) classes at home.
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Don’t the CM 5th graders take a different test? My CM 4th grader reported multiple scores in the 240s in her class. But I am assuming those are higher than what you are saying about 5th because it’s not the same test?[/quote]

Yes the CM-5 students take the 6th grade Math-M.[/quote]

They take the 6th grade MAP in the Spring. Fall and winter is the grade 3-5 MAP.[/quote]

No, 5th grade compacted students are taking the 6+ version all year. It was only last year that the solely took it in the spring. [/quote]

Last year it wasn't uniform.  At some schools, those in 5/6 in took the MAP-M 6+ in the Fall of 2022.

When a prior poster noted that MAP is built for continuity, they applied that to the wrong thing.  There's a bunch on the NWEA site (NWEA produces MAP) that says the standard is to compare season over year, rather than season to season (i.e., compare Fall to the prior Fall, not to the Spring).  It's not totally invalid to compare Winter to Fall, it's just a [i]more reliable[/i] indicator when compared to the prior Winter.

NWEA talks about MAP-M 6+ being built for continuity with MAP-M 3-5.  But that doesn't always hold on an individual basis. It's more of a law-of-large-numbers-based continuity (whole classes or schools), and that's among the reasons that MCPS decided to tweak their algorithm for the middle school Math magnet lottery pool to consider either the 5th-grade Fall MAP-M [i]or[/i] the 4th-grade Spring MAP-M[/quote]

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