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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That argument is a bit of a red herring.  Killing a political foe with a seal team would violate a ton of laws and in no way could it be considered within the job of a president.  Trump’s argument is that it is within his role as president to ensure that the election was fair blah blah.  It’s totally true but whether what he did actually was for that purpose etc is a fact question.  But on its face it’s not a ridiculous position to say that a president cannot be charged criminally for doing the things he is required to do under his oath of office.  The oath could never be stretched to justify ordering murder or using the military agains US citizens on US solid so I think the judge’s question was for clickbait but not really an apt analogy.[/quote]

So how does that question of fact get settled? Trump is claiming the charges should be dismissed before a trial. [/quote]

That is what these judges have to decide.  Does a president have immunity from prosecution for doing acts that are in support of his role or is there a limit.  It’s going to be a fact question and he was not convicted by the senate.  The constitution allows the senate to remove him and they chose not to.  So can a court find his immunity should be striped for an action he says was part of his job and the senate did not disagree?  I think the answer will be that ultimately he has immunity.  He has to or he can’t do his job.[/quote]

Huh? Yes, a president pretty much has immunity for carrying out his office.  Including shenanigans.

Many things are within the purview of the office.  Listening in on the opponent, nope.  Pressuring officials to change votes, no.  Using force (mob) to delay and alter an election, nope.  Those things are not the president's job.  [/quote]

Even if I agree that trump did all of those things, the remedy is impeachment.  That’s it.[/quote]

So a president can resign in order to get away with illegal activities?[/quote]

If those “illegal” activities relate to his job, yes and he will be immune.  If not related to the job, then no.  He could be prosecuted.[/quote]

So where is the line between related and unrelated?

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Specifically, can conduct that is job-related also be unlawful, or does it have to be lawful?  Under what circumstances can unlawful conduct be considered job-related?[/quote]

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