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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ours isn't the number of gifts so much as the dollar amount. We pick an amount we want to spend on each kid and get the items off their list that work.

DS asked for a PS5, some games, and some shoes (3 or 4 pairs).

DD asked for a bunch of makeup and skincare items, shoes, clothes, a ton of books, and an Apple Watch.

DS is getting a PS5, 2 games, and 1 pair of shoes.

DD is getting an Apple Watch, 2 pairs of shoes, makeup & skincare stuff, 4 books, and a few store gift cards to buy the clothes herself.

Both of their Xmas hauls add up to the same amount within around $15 of each other. They'll also be receiving gifts from their grandparents and other relatives, too. [/quote]

Wow.  Spoil your kids much?[/quote]

My kids don't know any other kids who don't have a game system with games or shoes.  My kids don't have the most recent game systems, like a Steam Deck or PS5 because they have other expensive hobbies and ask for those things instead.  If giving your kids a game system and shoes, or other similarly priced items, is spoiling then I guess every kid I know is spoiled?  
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Rich bubble momma [/quote]

Oh please, if you had that money you’d spend it on your kids during the holidays too. [/quote]

I'm the PP who got called a rich bubble momma here.  I actually don't think that's true.  In my experience, moderate and lower income people save specifically for Christmas, and if their kids get something nice, like a bike or a game system it's always a gift.  This is both because being able to give nice gifts is a point of pride, and because they want  their kids to understand that these things are gifts not expectations.   UMC and UC families boast about not spoiling their kids at Christmas, and saying they make their kids use "their own" money for things, but the reason their kids have their own money, is either because they get money as gifts, or they get generous allowances, or they get money from "working" for other UMC/UC people who pay their friends kids at inflated rates.  Or they decide something like an expensive pair of shoes, or sporting equipment or a bike is a "need" and buy it at a random point in the year, when lower income kids might wait for Christmas for the same thing.

That's just my observation.   [/quote]

Agree. I’ll add that children in affluent families have so many things already, they don’t want anything extra in their home. Their kids had too many toys when they were little (basements overflowing with crap), Pottery Barn bedrooms, sports equipment, shelves of books, the best gaming systems, and so on. Maybe their kids are spoiled and they’re sick of all of it. Parents go minimalist and it’s even a tiny point of pride for them.  I’ll also add many wealthy people go overboard.

In contrast, we had a smaller home,  no basement, so had to be careful about accumulating junk. I do not buy my kids expensive things outside of birthdays/Christmas. If they lose a water bottle, they go without. If they need new sneakers in November, I say put it on your Christmas list. My kids eye things they want all year long. We do not have to save for gifts, but I do stay under a budget. They have a very nice Christmas and they always look forward to the next one. On top of gift giving, the holiday is very sentimental for us and we have meaningful traditions.

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