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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My DC graduated last year with an AS Engineering degree and is attending an out-of-state engineering program. I agree that Early College is an underappreciated program, but I think word is starting to spread. Last year they had 279 MC/MCPS dual enrollment students who earned AA or AS degrees. The ceremony is here: https://www.montgomerycollege.edu/high-school-students/dual-enrollment/degree-and-pathway-programs/early-college-program/index.html . I forget the exact breakdown of the programs, but ~1/3 were Early College, ~1/3 were Clarksburg Ptech, and ~1/3 were MC^2 from Northwood and Northwest. This list of colleges that kids are attending is pretty impressive, with a significant portion going to UMD-CP.

The college application piece wasn't very clear, partly because the Early College advisors kept getting switched around and I don't think on-site MC folk have fully distinguished Early College graduates from regular MC graduates who will go through the transfer process. Here is what I learned:

1. Until you have a high school diploma, you must apply to college as a freshman, on the normal first-year application time frame. (I confirmed this with multiple Admission officers at different universities, including UMD.)

2. The MC courses appear on your high school transcript as CE ADV &lt;content area&gt; according to [ur=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10ioH1EHiOHwCyEZsm7caNYS_A5avqM23PWoKTFvW0tk/edit#gid=0l]MCPS Dual Enrollment/Credit Course Codes by MC Course[/url]

3. From an application standpoint, the courses are reported just like other AP/IB/advanced courses. UMD-CP (and some other schools) have applicants complete a Self-Reported Academic Record (SRAR) where you input your entire transcript. There isn't a place for saying you have an Associate's degree, because at the time you apply Early Action in fall of senior year, you don't have that yet.

4. The actual process of transferring credit to the university your student enrolls in happens after you send in the deposit. It follows that school's process for AP/IB/college credit. If it is a Maryland school all of the credits will transfer. If it is an out-of-state school, the school has some sort of credit transfer process. For my DC's school, they created an account for transferring and uploaded all of the courses before they had actually committed (confirming what would transfer). Some courses had already been approved and almost all of the rest were approved.

5. UMD-CP admissions officers don't seem to fully understand Early College and that it isn't just dual enrollment. We went to a couple of events for the Limited Enrollment Programs (LEPs - Engineering and Comp Sci) - the AOs there and folks at tables couldn't fully answer questions about what courses my DC would take.

This is my 3rd kid through the college admissions process at UMD, and my 3rd time of being unimpressed. UMD's admissions process is to admit to the university first, and then to the LEP. DC3 was deferred to regular decision because they wanted to see the 12th grade fall transcript. (Not sure why - GPA for MCPS and MC was high. I'm guessing because DC retook 1 course from winter session where they were sick and didn't finish it in the 3 weeks. Didn't know they could have withdrawn.) When UMD did admit DC in the spring, they were not admitted to the [b]Engineering LEP[/b], even though they met requirements for either internal admission to LEP or guaranteed admission by transfer from MC. Two weeks of emails to various folks in admissions were ignored. We finally emailed the person responsible for internal transfers into engineering with DC's transcript and asked about what courses DC would be able to take. 4 hours later the admissions letter was updated to admit to the Engineering LEP.  :roll:

DC did not choose UMD primarily because they were more interested in a special program at the school they are attending. The only course(s) that didn't transfer were English 101 and 102 because the school has a special combined intro to engineering/writing course required by all first year students. DC is taking a mix of freshman, sophomore, and junior courses this fall and spring, exploring a cross-section of a few majors (EE, CS, Physics, Math). Their goal isn't to graduate early. Instead they intended to complete some co-ops and dual major in 4-years.

Hopefully that helps. Despite some of the hiccups, we were overall very pleased with the Early College program and the program DC is attending now at university. [/quote]

Engineering at UMD is NOT an LEP. CS, Business are LEP's. Your student will have to be accepted to the University first before being accepted to their major. If you are accepted to the University and not offered your major, in the case of engineering you would need to fulfill the degree requirements and maintain the GPA - then apply for your major. The MC early college program is not a guaranteed admission to UMD. You still have to meet the qualifications for admission. [/quote]

Engineering at umd is def a LEP.  Lep.umd.edu

It is not a selective review lep, meaning that if a student is admitted to umd and successfully completes the gateway requirements and policies they can be admitted to engineering.  Computer science (as of fall 2024 for new students and out of state/private school students) and business are selective reviews, meaning that even with the minimum requirements and policies met they may not be admitted to thr major.[/quote]

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