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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Op here. Thank you. Is this what’s in the book of revelation verbatim ? Or is this how they interpret it? [/quote] You know I’ve tried to wade through Revelations and I just can’t. But that is what is accepted as truth among fundies and evangelicals (many of whom haven’t read the Bible at all). The Jewish people have to be there for the End Times. The other pillar of this is a passage you will be familiar with, depending on which version of the Bible you grew up with: Genesis 1:26, which basically says that humans are to have dominion over the earth. In the ‘vangie reading, this is taken to mean that we can do whatever we want and it has led to the belief that to bring about the end times, we first have to destroy the earth, which is why they oppose clean air, water, soil, and why they don’t care if every species on the planet except us and the food we need to grow goes extinct. Christians like that would be a thousand million times happier and better people if they understood what Jesus meant when he said “the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.” It’s here and you can have it if we’re kind and caring. That’s it. That’s what Jesus wanted. Make Heaven happen on earth. [/quote] Woah. Jew here. I can guarantee you that NO one thinks the Garden of Eden was in Israel. I've heard Sudan (Nile?) and Southern Iraq. And Adam/Eve were NOT Jewish. The first Jews were Abraham & Sarah and they didn't have laws of Kashrut, etc (modern laws). Laws didn't exist before Moses. And the Temple didn't exist until Solomon (David's son). Ad modern Jews are nothing like the "Temple" Jews. So putting all the Jews back to Israel because of the Garden of Eden/Genesis makes NO sense on so many levels. I am guessing that it is because Jesus was Jewish??? Jesus was in Israel??? Jesus didn't leave Israel??? So since Jesus died in Israel, all Jews should die in Israel to be with Jesus? I honestly have no idea.[/quote] For many “Christians Zionists,” and particularly for popular evangelists with significant clout within the Republican Party, their support for Israel is rooted in its role in the supposed end times: Jesus’ return to Earth, a bloody final battle at Armageddon, and Jesus ruling the world from the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. In this scenario, war is not something to be avoided, but something inevitable, desired by God, and celebratory. At the heart of Christian Zionism is not a love for Israel but rather Christian nationalism. What happens to the Jews and Palestinians is, to put it very mildly, collateral damage. Christian Zionists are anticipating, and hoping for a war to end all wars, and a resulting Christian world that they claim will vanquish evil and bring peace. Only those who accept Jesus as their savior will benefit from these events that Christian Zionists claim the Bible predicts will happen. Nonbelievers — including Jews and Muslims — will not survive them.[/quote] I've known about this theology for a while, but seeing it written out turns my stomach. Isn't it nice to know that there are people in power that believe this shit????[/quote] Who is “in power” who *actually* believes this?[/quote] +1 So many utter nut jobs on this thread, just spewing garbage left and right. [/quote]
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