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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes, 2nd grade Cogat but you can have it re-administered, especially given the impact of COVID on those years for current 5th graders. Does anyone else’s test explanations not work? I am unrealistically hoping it says something like “we see your kid needs…(blank)” but mine just spins and reloads the title box without content. [/quote] APS hasn't readministered it to the current 5th graders, to the best of my understanding. The current 5th graders missed the 2nd grade Cogat testing because schools were closed for COVID. There was a make up screener in spring of 3rd for those who were back part time in person, but not the normal test.[/quote] My 5th grader took it last year upon request from us. All kids without a full test can take it again (or they will be given it in middle school anyway). [/quote] Ugh, me again - we (parents) requested that our then-4th grader take it. The request was granted. Several students took it with mine. A parent simply needs to request and it will be granted as long as one is not on file. [/quote] For a school district that talks about equity, it's pretty crazy that they'd rely on the Cogat next year for placement if the only kids who have a real score are those with parents who knew to request that their kids specially take the test. We hadn't requested to have our kid to take it because she's already flagged for gifted in all subjects, so it didn't seem to be necessary. Maybe we should reconsider.[/quote] Your child must not be 2e. Mine (I’m the one who requested) is 2e, meaning said child looks not bright due to learning challenges but who scored in the 8-9th stanine for all subtexts to everyone’s shock (in the school. We knew that the child was being underestimated). We couldn’t get my child identified without the test. Your kid is probably louder, more confident, reads faster…idk. But I can tell you that the inequity isn’t on your child’s end…it’s on mine, who had to deal with teachers treating said kid like they were dumb before said teachers realized their mistake. For a school that shouts equity, there is no equity for anyone who doesn’t fit in specific boxes. [/quote] I have no idea what you're going on about. You are clearly paying attention and advocating for your kid. He was tested and identified. The kids who are disadvantaged are the ones who don't have parents who even know there is math placement in 6th and certainly don't know what they have to do to have their kids considered.[/quote] There is inequity in that no one will see that child as gifted if APS doesn’t differentiate until 6th because it’s impossible to get ahead if no one teaches you. This thread started about map tests - the fact is, a kid cannot score past a certain point if they have no idea what a square root symbol looks like, and APS doesn’t reach that at this age, so a 5th grader is potentially artificially capped if they don’t have an invested parent exposing them to novel concepts. That’s the horror of it. But your kid - identified on the basis of her school work without a standardized test - is not getting the short end of the stick. That’s all I was trying to say. [/quote] I certainly wasn't complaining about my kid. I just surprised that APS hasn't even thought about equity in the process. It's going to be a bizarre year with no real Cogat scores and the first year using MAP for placement. [/quote] They don’t use MAP for placement in isolation. It’s combined with SOL scores and sometimes teacher data [/quote]
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