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I appreciate your concern regarding fire. However, ammunition does not act quite the same when exposed to fire as it does when fired through the barrel of a firearm. A loaded firearm with a chambered round is much more of a threat in a fire. But, there are a lot of other household items that could also present problems for first responders. For example, propane tanks, gasoline tanks (e.g., cars in a garage, or stored for mowers), various flammable accelerants, etc. Even heavy safes on upper floors could pose a serious hazard by falling through one or more floors weakened by fire.
 
I am curious to know if you are personally familiar with actual instances of the "worst case scenario" of accidental explosion/fire? This is of more than passing interest to me as I am member of Fairfax County's Community Emergency Response Team (CERT) and I have been certified as an EMT. I believe that about one-third of US households report having at least one gun. Yet I don't recall hearing stories of first responders being injured or killed by ammo exploding due to fire. I'm not saying it hasn't happened....just that I haven't heard stories.

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Another poster gave you an example,  I am sure I could search the Internet and find others, my concerns arose from personal experience gleaned from two tours of duty in the Middle East, from which I returned physically unscathed.

I witnessed ammo exploding and killing innocents and combatants on an all too frequent basis.   More often than not, intentionally set off, but other times by accident.  No reason it can't or won't happen here particularly with large stashes such as are being hoarded by the End of World types.  (assuming yours in modest by “normal” standards.

Don't you find it just a little bizarre that we have no qualms surrendering our freedoms to Airport Security, The Patriot Act and even our ability to buy cold medicine such as Sudafed to the government without even a second thought.  
Question the legitimacy of the purchase of a 100 round mag. or acquisition of an absurd amount of ammo over a short period of time and out come; Wayne La Pierre, NRA,  2nd Amend fanatics the Tea Party, Militia Movement types all frothing at the mouth.  
How's this list for absurd weapons laws: 
Want to buy an RPG?  You can! 
Want to buy a high intensity laser, capable of blinding a pilot or burning flesh,  you can!  Want to buy a slightly used battle tank (operational/drivable condition the ad stated) , you can for less than $1k (think how many buildings and cars you can crush.  Just thin how many cars your could crush or building you could  knock down defending yourselves from government tyranny.
Want to buy a used armored personnel carrier suitable for highway driving? Prices start at $17K (equipped with your laser, RPG and legal semi auto weapon with a  100 round mag I bet this would have Gun Nuts experiencing gungasms just fantasizing defending themselves from government troops. And to top it off, you can buy, for only $2.5 mil a fully flight certified Northrup F5 vintage 2005,  not armored. I'd hate to think of the impact you could make with the End of World types  with that toy.  (bad choice of words).
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Well, I think you are somewhat misguided. Yes another poster provided me with a link, and I looked though it. While I am sympathetic to dangers faced by the FD, that link provided precious little in the way of hard facts and stats. The plain fact of the matter is, I don't think that it is a big concern. In searching the internet, please stick to hard news stories by legitimate news sources. I find way too many people relying on anecdotes and advocacy sites for fact sources.

You refer to end of the world types and gun nuts. That seems somewhat pejorative. While some people are obviously a bit motivated by some sense of dread, I have not met any. By the way, you might consider the book Emergency by Neil Strauss for suggestions on what to do when the S hits the fan. I'll wager that people such as myself, with a few firearms and plenty of ammo, actually pay the money to safely store both. It's like the old quote about being afraid of the person that wants just one nuclear weapon.

I'm afraid I can't abide your statement regarding Airport Security, the Patriot Act and cold medicine. I think many people, on both sides of the political spectrum, have major qualms with all of that. You list a lot of military equipment and weapons that are supposedly easily available. I'd be interested in having links to the selling sites. Frankly, I don't believe most of them. But even if I stipulate your list as accurate, I am left with a "so what" attitude. The fact of the matter is, we have not seen crimes committed with RPGs, tanks, lasers, F5's, etc. I'm most concerned about crime committed by inner city youth and gangs. These guys aren't spending $1000 on their pistols like I am. So I'm not worried about the guy that buys 10 guns. I'm more worried about the guy that wants one cheap gun.

As a graduate of Virginia Tech, I traveled to the campus to pay my respects the weekend after after the massacre there. Don't get me started about the failures of our mental health system in general and in that instance in particular. Quite possibly we will learn about similar failures in Colorado. We seem paralyzed as a society about calling a spade a spade when it comes to the mentally ill.[/quote]

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