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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So you want everyone to get in and nobody to have to pay full price, correct?[/quote]

Nah. Those schools could increase their supply 5x, keep their acceptance rates at 5%, and still get plenty of takers for "full pay".[/quote]

If T20 schools went from 1500 freshman/6K undergrads to 7500 freshman/30K undergrads, they would not be nearly as attractive.  There is not space to build more dorm, or at least not enough dorms, no room for classes or space for professor offices.  Harvard would just be a UMichigan but one without any infrastructure in place.  [/quote]

Baloney. They could absolutely do it and maintain their elite status. Severely restricting the number of slots is a deliberate choice. [/quote]

Please tell me where these people would live if 6000 freshman arrived at a campus that houses 1500. Or 30,000 showed up on a campus made for 7500.

The year that Virginia Tech overenrolled by 1000, they paid people to defer for a year and took over a hotel off campus to house the kids who came. There were long lines at dining halls, which made people late for class. People sitting in the aisles in lecture halls. [/quote]

As an example, Canadian colleges are able to separate their educational mission and housing.  If as an example, the University of Toronto wants to add slots they take the viewpoint that Toronto is a large city and there are plenty of housing options available.  Sure, you may not be able to walk to class, but there is plenty along bus and subway lines.  Also, it is pretty common in Canada for kids to just attend their "local" college and commute...the residential experience is not as highly valued/expected.

US universities could also take this approach, but it of course would be a shock to people.  Harvard or BC or whomever would just indicate only freshmen get housing and everybody else is on their own.

Not saying I agree with this approach, but just making it clear how the University of Toronto has 78,000 students (yes two campuses, but they are close to each otehr)...which probably makes it the largest university in North America.[/quote]

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