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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can someone please explain how an autistic person can ‘fake’ all the nuanced things that go into not being perceived as at all different ([b]irony, sarcasm, inference, nuance, complex humor, perspective taking[/b])? 
If you know enough to fake those abilities then I just don’t get how you can be secretly autistic? [/quote]

In elementary school, kids don't do all of that consistently anyway.  Skating under the radar is a lot easier than you're thinking, if someone is motivated and a reasonable mimic/chameleon.[/quote]

Right but I’m not talking about skating under the radar in elementary (totally get that with milder cases). I’m talking about the masking discourse that goes beyond elementary and posits that an individual may so effectively ape neurotypical behavior as to be indistinguishable from a person without asd.

I don’t completely not buy it but to me this absolutely underlines the need to better define autism. All humans stim in some ways. All humans can find social interaction exhausting. But to me to be able to understand it to the extent you can fake it is fundamentally different from a disorder of inability to perceive others intent, perspective and motivation and thus unable to even pretend. Fundamentally so so different [/quote]

Are you talking about specific individuals you've observed to be able to perceive intent, perspective and motivation in others and have been diagnosed with ASD? My understanding of masking is it means the individual has to work really hard to do it, and it doesn't always work. Like not having intuition about certain social rules and so they memorize them instead. They are succeeding sometimes and not in others.

I was listening to some podcasts featuring Donna Henderson, and it helped me understand the concept of masking.[/quote]

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