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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Vienna has a long history of not developing players. You would expect that to change with the number of paid staff rather than the old parent coach/trainer model, but the leadership and coaches have been poor, especially for the younger girls.

They talk great a great game and make lots of promises, but there is very little actual development and once you are in they tend to treat you poorly. Communication is awful. There is a reason they have such consistently high attrition compared to other local clubs. [/quote]

None of this is even close to true. Maybe 5+ years ago, but the coaching is excellent on the uLittle girls’ side, and the teams are very competitive.  Vincent and Regi are great. [/quote]

I didn’t want to bring names into it, but you identified the problem. If they were great they wouldn’t hemorrhage players each year when players get sick of getting moved every two weeks with no explanation or realize that they aren’t progressing while kids at the surrounding clubs are learning and growing (2014s only have 2 teams now - they drove off an entire team’s worth of kids in 1 year). R seems like a nice guy. V is a heck of a talker. I wouldn’t let either of them work with my kids. [/quote]

Interesting. I think R is about as good as they get. He moved my daughter down, but did it in a kind way, and then later moved her back up.

He’s super positive, a great technical coach, nice guy, runs excellent practices, plays an up-tempo attacking style, etc. I have had a lot of soccer experience as a player and parent and can’t recommend him highly enough.

I can’t speak directly to the 2014 girls, but I have heard it was a weak birth year for VYS girls from the get-go. 2014 boys is a strong year, with 5 teams. The older girls definitely didn’t hemorrhage players at that age - the few who left were the ones who got moved down and didn’t improve.[/quote]

If that is the experience you have had that’s great, happy for you and your daughter as it sounds wonderful - but that was not the experience for the 2012 or 2014 group. 2012 had a lot of girls leave. 2014s had a whole team leave that they could not replace - let that sink in - a full team of players left after 1 year. No communication around movement, no notice or reason for up/down movement. No development discussions. Babysitting sessions. No real coaching or development. Kick it vertical and try and win it back play style. [/quote]

My understanding was that the girls’ side had moved to a rotating roster situation for uLittle girls, where the team rosters were chosen game by game, tournament by tournament. The boys’ uLittle side does not do this; teams are set by now.

Is that the case and maybe what is not working?  Have the parents been giving feedback?

It seems those of us with older girls had a better uLittle experience with the same coaches. I do agree that while they are nice, they are not great communicators.

It’s completely fine to disagree on play style and development, but as someone who has played with former national team players I didn’t find it was a kick and run style. I actually felt that way about some other VYS coaches, but not the Dutchmen. R played the opposite, and I think sometimes promoted too much passing in the backfield.

The club has a number of former D1 players and even a few former pros that keep their kids there. One would think if the coaching and development was this poor, they would recognize it and switch, no?[/quote]

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