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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Vienna has a long history of not developing players. You would expect that to change with the number of paid staff rather than the old parent coach/trainer model, but the leadership and coaches have been poor, especially for the younger girls.

They talk great a great game and make lots of promises, but there is very little actual development and once you are in they tend to treat you poorly. Communication is awful. There is a reason they have such consistently high attrition compared to other local clubs. [/quote]

None of this is even close to true. Maybe 5+ years ago, but the coaching is excellent on the uLittle girls’ side, and the teams are very competitive.  Vincent and Regi are great. [/quote]

I didn’t want to bring names into it, but you identified the problem. If they were great they wouldn’t hemorrhage players each year when players get sick of getting moved every two weeks with no explanation or realize that they aren’t progressing while kids at the surrounding clubs are learning and growing (2014s only have 2 teams now - they drove off an entire team’s worth of kids in 1 year). R seems like a nice guy. V is a heck of a talker. I wouldn’t let either of them work with my kids. [/quote]

Interesting. I think R is about as good as they get. He moved my daughter down, but did it in a kind way, and then later moved her back up.

He’s super positive, a great technical coach, nice guy, runs excellent practices, plays an up-tempo attacking style, etc. I have had a lot of soccer experience as a player and parent and can’t recommend him highly enough.

I can’t speak directly to the 2014 girls, but I have heard it was a weak birth year for VYS girls from the get-go. 2014 boys is a strong year, with 5 teams. The older girls definitely didn’t hemorrhage players at that age - the few who left were the ones who got moved down and didn’t improve.[/quote]

It’s a common theme for girls that don’t make the top team in VYS to move over to McLean’s second team with promises of development. [/quote]

Yep, Vienna girls played McLean last weekend. The 2011’s tied, the 10s/9s/8s all won by 2 goals each, and the 06’s won by 6 goals. The only Vienna loss was the 07’s, by a single goal.

McLean is an excellent program, and the objective results don’t support the assertions in this thread that Vienna doesn’t develop their girls’ teams and they aren’t competitive.

McLean always has us playing against a couple of former players. Some were not on Phoenix and are now on McLean green, and I’m always happy for them. That said, they usually come in as subs, and McLean seems to play long benches, so PT is limited. Probably still the right move if they are happy with the training. [/quote]

Have you considered that the best McLean 10s/9s/8s are playing for Union which, whatever problems it has, is still far better than Brave? [/quote]

The Union 10 team is basically the SYC 10 team with a few McLean + outside players. The Brave 10 team is basically the VYS 10 team with a few BRYC + outside players.

Brave has created a far stiffer headwind for VYS girls than Union has created for McLean.

I don’t know the 09 and 08 Union teams well, but the 10 Union team is amazing, and right there with BSC as the best in the area. If they are tied as 1A, VDA and FCV are probably 1B. Brave is right behind them, along with Arlington, followed by Loudoun and most of the rest of ECNL mid-A.

Union 10s may be better than Brave 10s, but I disagree they are “far better”. [/quote]

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