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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No and I also find it frustrating. I have 4 kids who I had before my employer, the federal government, offered any paid parental leave. By the last 2 I was out of sick and annual balances so I took unpaid leave for just  8 weeks after a difficult birth because we really couldn’t afford anything more. The men who announce their 12 weeks of paid bonding time make me extremely resentful.[/quote]

Time to put on your big girl pants and GET OVER IT. [/quote]

No, the man in my office who just came back from 12 weeks of paid playing golf time while his wife, mother, mother-in-law and infant were at home are extremely frustrating. I know he did some bonding and helping mom, but the 12 weeks for dads when most moms don't get that much is absurd and I am also very resentful I had to cover his work for his extra vacation. All of the older parents in my office look sideways at the dads who take paid parental leave for more than a couple of weeks.[/quote]

Boo hoo, you don’t like how others are spending their leave. Sounds like the arrangement is working well for him and his family!
You sound obsessed with your coworker tbh. Hope he files an HR complaint on your creepy self. [/quote]

No I don't like that men get this leave in the first place. Parental leave for men is another example of how we've stopped valuing women in the name of misguided gender equality ideology.[/quote]

Yes we should go back to the good old days when a Mom with a c section doesn't have assistance when she or the baby has complications, PPD, and a wide variety of common occurrences beyond family bonding.

In the first weeks of my daughter we had daily visits to the NICU, I had trips to the ER for undiagnosed post partum pre-clampsia, then she came home and had to go to the hospital daily for bilirubin tests. I don't know how people don't understand it isn't just a "abandon Mom" she'll be fine carrying a 30 lb baby in a carrier to medical appointments.[/quote]

I'm sorry that happened to you. In a case like that any father could take his sick leave and help care for mom and baby. That makes perfect sense. 12 weeks for all fathers in all circumstances seems really excessive. Another gent at my agency adopted 2 elementary school kids when he married their mom and took his 12 weeks while they went to school all day. [/quote]

Sure. He could. Or he could work in a company with basic leave.

Google gives 24 weeks to the parent who gives birth and 18 to the partner. Because they’re so benevolent? No. Because that’s what top talent expects. The professional expectations on this has shifted and you’re going to have to get with the times.

But companies that act like no one has ever had a baby and have cultures that blame the parent taking leave not the company planning for their highly predictable absence want to keep the social pressure on not to take the leave. It’s not working for Gen Z at all. [/quote]

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