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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"Equity" at work. Trying to achieve "balance" instead of just going with the best candidates.[/quote] What do you do then if your student body is 80% mostly middle class, white or asian, female applicants? I am all for an academic meritocracy, but if all colleges do this, what are the consequences on society for the next generations? The article tries to get at this. I understand we are in a patriarchy. It's hard to accept that we need men in college, even if they don't do as well in school as women. Why would we give them a break if they don't have the best academic profiles as a group, and if the people at the top are mostly all men anyway? But then what do you when hardly any men go on to graduate college, and take menial positions in society? It would be a very interesting experiment, but perhaps not with the result you have in mind. [/quote] PP you're responding to. Fair points. My first inclination to answer your question was "yes, of course that's fine" but that is some food for thought. I doubt it is that skewed though. It's 55/45 or 60/40 ok? And why not try to address the problem at elementary age instead? I actually doubt men will end up taking menial positions just because they don't go to college. There are lot of very high paying jobs that men are more likely to take than women. There was the recent thread about UPS drivers earning 6 figures. There's plumbing and contracting and electrical work. Police and Corrections may not require college. And you could also see new industries develop, like the coding explosion where many programmars were self-taught. Women can do all these jobs of course, but don't tend to go into them in high numbers. [/quote] I worry that they will try to might-makes-right bulldoze the merits of education, Joe the Plumber style. We already saw the prominence of that with the previous pres and the whole effort to stigmatize education as "elite." You have ones like Trump in it for the name (like the guy who doctored transcripts actually did any college level work?) but capitalizing on the appeal of his crude uninformed ramblings. And ones like DeSantis, Hawley and Cruz trying to divorce/bury their education to appeal to the grass roots anti ed momentum. Dude culture is already brewing. Guys foregoing higher ed will be the hops. The next era will be dominated by 24 hr beer pong on ESPN 9.[/quote] I don’t think men ready to give up that easily. Look what we’re doing at New College. Trying to wrest control back of the institutions. [/quote] Hmm. Perhaps. I'm curious how they will coexist. But, I guess that vision for New College just distills anti academic rhetoric and mixes it with Western/Euro ideals. It's a weird mashup. My kid won an award from an organization that was supposed to be nonpartisan, but the key speaker was all about how 1619 project was assaulting our "great western traditions/ideals," going on and on about how essentially everything great is from Europe. Most of the honorees were Asian. [/quote]
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