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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The people I know whos kids swim for the in house St James team do it for convenience. they like that they can participate in 3 month increments vs committing to a full 9 months. However, I have not been impressed with any of the kid I have seen who swim there. Their technique is pretty bad. Not sure it that is because of poor coaching or because these kids just aren't that committed. [/quote]

For as small as their team might be they have a few kids that are the top swimmers in PVS at the championship meets. [/quote]
Why do people talk out of their @sses with stuff like this? There were a grand total of 2 St. James swimmers in the the 3 PVS champs meets this summer and neither of them made finals. They were better represented in the spring 14 and Under SC champs meet, 12 swimmers, but only 3 of them made any finals, none of them placed first, and it appears they have 2 female age groupers who are strong breaststrokers. That does not equal “top swimmers in PVS at the championship meets”.[/quote]

Sounds about right. Point is the coaching is plenty good enough to help kids get better if they want to and to help even part time swimmers compete at a high level if they want to. [/quote]

That sounds like what we are looking for, thanks. Our kid is competitive, but we aren’t going to drag them to unnecessary morning practices and add more pool time to their busy week just to make the club more money. They cross train.  I don’t buy into all of that mileage garbage for 12 year olds.[/quote]

New commenter here but from what I hear at my summer pool it’s actually the exact opposite of what you are thinking.

T[b]he times for champs are not very fast and should be easily achievable for anyone with the slightest bit of decent professional coaching.[/b] If a team is only sending a few swimmers to these meets it’s almost certainly actually because those swimmers are just very naturally talented and got there despite the coaching not because of the coaching.[/quote]

What Summer Pool are you at saying this?  SC Champs and LC Champs have qualifying times that are set to limit the kids that can get in.  So only the top X percent  can make it into the meet.  So they do not understand club swim.[/quote]

The typical conversion between SCM and LCM is right around 1 sec per 50 and the 100th place time for NVSL in almost every 9-10 50 event (free back and breast) is more than a second faster than the PVS LC champs cut in that equivalent event.

If I had to guess almost every NVSL team has at least 1 9-10 kid that is top 100 in a single event (equal to what St James sent to chanps) and plenty of teams have college (some even high school) kids as their head coach so I don’t think St. James having a qualifier says much about coaching.[/quote]

One out of how many?  It looks like St James only had a couple of 9-10 kids in their summer LC program; 1 boy and 1 girl competed in the PVS LC open meets.  In which case, the fraction that qualified for champs was REALLY high.[/quote]

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