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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]RMSC is more competitive because there are less spots and more applicants.  RMSC is also more than half the price of NCAP.  We have year round swimmers from NCAP on our MCSL team that suck and they are paying the big bucks.  NCAP just wants your $$$. It’s not better. [/quote]

Except more broadly, outside your summer swim team, NCAP as a team is typically ranked higher in PVS than RMSC(based on swimmer's performance) so there's that.[/quote]

Not really. They are about the same. RMSC has slightly stronger boys and NCAP has slightly better girls, at the moment. But that ebbs and flows depending on swimmers in the group. RMSC is only located in Montgomery County, where NCAP has more locations but those are franchised so ymmv on the training.[/quote]

They are close and it does ebb and flow as you noted but if you follow it over time, it "ebbs and flows" in favor of NCAP more that RMSC.

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Not sure what you are using to evaluate ranking but there are a lot of variables in play. It’s a stretch to say NCAP is better. 
Honestly, OP, it’s best to tryout and observe the practices and talk to people from your summer club. We’ve been very happy with RMSC. I know others that are happy at NCAP. My swimmers have fast and slow swim friends in both clubs. Individual coaches make the difference. Both clubs are large enough to compete at meets locally but are competitive enough to send swimmers to national meets.[/quote]

USA Swimming club excellence ratings:

https://www.usaswimming.org/coaches-leaders/team-leaders/programs-services/club-excellence

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This means zero. NCap as a whole might do well but each site runs independently of one another and some sites have good coaches and others don’t. Prep is considered the “best” along with West (Manassas) in terms of producing fast swimmers but the other sites are meh. RMSC has comparable outcomes for such a large team with- from what I gather- very crowded lanes.[/quote]

No, it doesn't mean "zero"...

The primary objectives of the program are to recognize and promote:

- The development of strong, well-rounded age group and senior swimming programs that produce elite 18 & under athletes;
    - Resources to motivate and assist USA Swimming member clubs to achieve the highest athlete performance ideals;
    - Grant funding; and The USA Swimming club development system as integral part in achieving excellence in the sport.

So that's something.

Clubs may qualify for one of three levels of recognition:
1. Gold
• The top 20 point-scoring USA Swimming member clubs in 2024; and
• A minimum of one 18 & Under athlete from the club must achieve a Gold time standard.

2. Silver
• USA Swimming member clubs who do not achieve Gold status and rank in the top 21-100 point scores
in 2024.
• At least one 18 & Under athlete registered with the club must achieve the Silver time standard.

3. Bronze
• USA Swimming member clubs who do not achieve Gold or Silver status and rank in the top 101-200
point scores in 2024.
• At least one 18 & Under athlete registered with the club must achieve the Bronze time standard.

4. Podium Club
• Any club achieving the Gold Medal level for a fourth consecutive year will earn additional recognition
by being named to the Podium Club.

NCAP is gold and RMSC is silver - still good but clearly below NCAP

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