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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DS working on finalizing top 10 EC/activities it in the (50/100/150 characters format) and then top 5 awards….

DS hearing his friends (private school) talking about a LOT of embellishment…with the EC (unique non-school) and one off awards.

How common is this? Isn’t someone checking?[/quote]

[b]Unique ECs and awards are not embellishment.They are just unique. "Embellishment" is usually a way people like to gloss over lying. Don't lie[/b].[/quote]

Exactly!  Only rich people are allowed to lie..err. embellish..err.. do 'unique' activities and get 'unique' awards.  Plebes shouldn't follow their example!  :lol:  :lol:

There are prep schools around here for AAP where kids as young as KG attend weekly classes, participate in "unique" activities and get awards.  Parents include those awards in their statement that accompanies the application packet.  What PP is describing are just somewhat grown up, private school versions of the same thing.  Make sh*t up, just make sure the hours tally.

The best way to get rid of nonsense (e.g. ECs) is to make them meaningless by cheating.  Same goes for essays.  Use ChatGPT or other AI to write the essays.  If all essays are done well, they stop becoming a differentiator that only rich people with access to paid professionals have access to.  Tear down those walls![/quote]

It's sad how you try to justify cheating in the name of revolution for the people. That takes some kind of boldness and arrogance, frankly.

You don't have to be rich to have unique ECs. My kids do. They can even be service oriented. Brainstorm. Get creative. My kids have done some unique things and have done some things that were costly, but we got financial aid to help do it. So, middle class people, check out these opportunities, and ask about financial aid.

Sure, rich people have more options, but AOs know that. Don't equate inequity with cheating. Advocating making up ECs or Chat GPT essays is cheating. It stinks that rich kids have opportunities that my kid doesn't have, but it REALLY stinks (& hurts my kid) when you help your kid cheat and encourage others to do the same.[/quote]

Lady. Chill! ECs and essays are the equivalent of a firewalled institution (that you subsidize) asking you if you rub your belly and bark like a dog twice a day.  You are saying that you should train your kids to do that and answer honestly that they did or didn't or did just once a day.  I'm saying reject this nonsense and claim that you did it two or three times a day while doing whatever it is you want to do (or nothing at all).  If everyone does this, that requirement is bound to die.  That's all.

Oh, if you really wanted to help you'd have said "My kids have done some unique things and have done some things that were costly, but we got financial aid to help do it [i]and here's what they did[/i]".  Try that next time. [/quote]

That's a load if crap your peddling. It  just speaks to you as entitled,  lazy and unethical. Cheating is not liberating the people, it's ripping them off. Stop gaslighting people to make out that somehow what you are advocating is ok. It hurts the kids who have actually devoted time and energy to their activities, so that your slacker can capitalize. Not cool.

[b]No one is forced to "jump through hoops." You choose to apply, so just don't apply to schools that care about level of ECs.[/b] But, don't lie and say you did something when you didn't or inflate the extent of involvement.

As far as getting financial aid for ECs, everyone has different interests, so what my kids did may not be relevant. 
For those interested, one kid got financial aid for music lessons and scholarships for music and theatre camps/festivals. My other got financial aid for an educational research trip. Some activities have financial aid info on the website,  some we just asked if it was available and what was the process for applying. [/quote]

This is the critical point. You think ECs are crap? Great! [b]Apply to schools that agree with you and don’t emphasize them.[/b] No different from test scores—my kid doesn’t want to submit test scores, which means MIT, Georgetown, and a bunch of state schools are off the table. The answer is to accept that and move on, not to lie.[/quote]

I will gladly do that once the universities start paying taxes and I'm not subsidizing them!  Until then, it's all fair game.

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You clearly don't even understand what you think you are saying.[/quote]

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