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My senior just graduated, OP, with a dozen AP classes, like many students.

AP is the new Honors.
Honors is the new Regular.
Regular is the new Remedial.

This has been going on for years. 
If you don't know this, you haven't been paying attention.

If you care at all about college admissions, you have to play that game. There are plenty of 4.2 wgpa, multiple-AP students who are rejected from UMD.

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True. When low skill students are mainstreamed, honors becomes regular. It’s not necessarily a bad thing but I agree that you have to be aware of it. [/quote]

Then schools should be more forthcoming about it. Instead what's been happening is the regular courses have quietly been eliminated and all kids are being assigned to honors regardless of what their grades have been.[/quote]

Forthcoming? [b]What more do you want, if you look at courses offered and don't see a regular class for that subject?[/b] Are you going to assume that all students magically became good at the subject, or are you going to understand that the "Honors" class is just the least challenging class?

I see you belong in the Regular class, PP ;-)

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You don't understand. When our then-8th-grader was registering for 9th grade, the school's registration form listed both regular and honors classes for English and Biology.[b] But then when they got to 9th, the regular classes had disappeared and every 9th grader was put into 'Honors' English and 'Honors' Biology.[/b] There was no explanation about this change ever shared by the school. We only found out it happened because a parent shared the info on the listserv.[/quote]
DP but what's the problem there? Maybe there was not enough students taking the regular classes, or maybe they were challenging everyone to their potential?[/quote]
NP.   no, they dumbed it down.  And they do nothing in MS to prepare kids for the more rigorous AP classes.[/quote]

Yes, they dumbed it down. This is how MCPS describes honors courses. Does any honors course even resemble this?:

[i]Honors courses provide expectations and opportunities for students to engage in more rigorous and complex content and processes and to develop authentic products that reflect the student’s understanding of key concepts. The curriculum in each Honors course includes appropriate adaptations for enriched learning to pursue in-depth studies that require abstract and higher-order thinking skills.[/i]

It would be nice if on Back to School night, teachers of honors courses would explain to parents how their class will be providing the above.[/quote]

At our school, this is not the case at all. They have helped students rise to new heights, but I did hear at the lesser schools they had to dumb it down.[/quote]

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