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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]No student left BASIS for another DCPS or Charter school from 9th grade forward
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Latin lost kid(s) (who stayed in DCPS/charter) to:
Coolidge (after 9th)
LAYC Career Academy (after 10th and 11th)
Ballou STAY (after 11th)
Luke C Moore (after 11th)

SWW lost kid(s) (who stayed in DCPS/charter) to:
JR (after 9th, 10th and 11th)
Latin (after 11th)

Seems like the handwringing on DCUM is a lot of noise, but the actual data says that kids who attend these schools are content.[/quote]

Huh? When I select BASIS and grades 9-12, I see at least one leaving for Coolidge, and some to Walls and Ellington.

BASIS high school retained student count: 
8th into 9th: 78
9th into 10th: 50
10th into 11th: 63 (must have been a bigger cohort?)
11th into 12th: 42

That doesn't really spell satisfaction in my view.[/quote]

Maybe double check your work my friend? You are sorting backwards, not forwards. The kids who left for Coolidge, Walls and Ellington did so after 8th. You also fundamentally misunderstand snapshot data; you can't look at numbers from different grades in the same year and conclude enrollment drops since those kids are only in one grade in 22-23.

Ironically, you just made my point for me. People like you with strong beliefs and big mouths draw conclusions that don't comport with facts. Even with the actual data in hand you still screw it up.[/quote]

I do understand those things, I thought that when you said &quot;from 9th grade forward&quot; you meant to include the 8th-into-9th group. But it seems you did not.

I also do understand that BASIS cohorts are of varying sizes and that this is not retention data. That is why I added the parenthetical about cohort size. Even so, this is not a resounding endorsement of BASIS.[/quote]

100% of kids who start 9th stay (or move out of the district schools). You would prefer higher retention? [/quote]

It doesn't really matter to me whether they're leaving for schools in the district or in another state. We don't know how many kids are in that N&lt;10 category, and since BASIS high school isn't that big a school, if they're losing 9 kids a year they have a problem. If it's just 1 kid a year, fine.

If you look at BASIS middle school retention, there data set is bigger. Kids rising from BASIS 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th leave for DCI, Deal, Stuart-Hobson, Jefferson, Truth, Latin, Washington Global, CHML, Eliot-Hine, Sousa, Digital Pioneers, and Two Rivers. I suppose BASIS advocates would say that offloading low performers is what makes BASIS so great for the remaining kids. [b]But we don't know from this data whether these kids left due to BASIS' wonderful &quot;rigor&quot;, or whether they left because BASIS isn't really that great[/b].[/quote]

What does that even mean? A school isn't great for a kid if it is a bad fit for that kid. If the academics are too hard, it is a bad fit. If the kids wants to focus on music, it is a bad fit. If the kid wants to prioritize sports, it is a bad fit. If the commute makes holding down a job impossibe, it is a bad fit. What you don't seem to understand is [i]that's ok[/i]. Everything doesn't have to be for everyone. If a kid left any school because it was a bad fit for that kid, that's a good thing for that kid and that school. Why is this concept so hard for you?[/quote]

BASIS boosters attribute any disenrollment to kids not being able to keep up academically. In my experience that is sometimes the reason, but not always. Sometimes people just don't think BASIS is that great. [/quote]

Do you not know how to read? Post you replied to just laid out a bunch of different reasons kids might leave a school. You literally made their point for them that you can't see past your single mindedness and hatred.  [/quote]

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