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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have also worked in publishing in many years. Unless you really can't bear not to, the best thing to do is not to bother getting published. It's brutal and thankless. But if you have the drive, then the advice here is decent.[/quote]

So true. PP/published novelist here.

If I had poured half as many hours and work into anything else I would be successful in my field. Instead I am a mid-list author. If I could do it over, I would write as a hobby on the side and pursue a more lucrative career instead of the other way round.[/quote]

I have so much respect for writers, and this makes me sad.[/quote]

don't be sad. writers like to complain, a lot, even the most successful ones[/quote]

Ha! I am the writer you are referring to and . . . yes. I do like to complain about publishing. We all do. We get together for brunch and whine, and I'm not even kidding. If you are a big reader you would recognize some of our names. My friend who got a $200k advance for her FIRST book was complaining that she didn't make the NYT list.

But that's not me. My complaints are valid, natch.[/quote]

I am also published but I don't do this.[b] Also $200k is small fry these days for a first book[/b], I had a friend get double that 20 years ago. But then he was a man, so that might be why, unfortunately. [/quote]

BS.

Anyone who thinks $200k is "small fry" does not hang out with published authors.

I debuted several years ago and am in a FB group for debuts that year and have discussed advances with many authors. You are full of it.

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I'm sorry to disappoint you. [/quote]

I'm not disappointed.

Your statement just doesn't pass the smell test.

And I hate that someone who obviously knows nothing about the industry is spewing BS on an anonymous board, and giving writers false hope that they might score huge advances for their debut novels.

https://www.macgregorandluedeke.com/blog/ask-agent-average-first-book-pay/
https://maryadkinswriter.com/blog/how-much-do-authors-make[/quote]

I was an agent for over 10 years. In London. [/quote]

Yeah, you're lying. No agent in the publishing industry thinks $200k advances for debut authors are small. [/quote]

You are so aggressive on this thread that if I knew you personally I would be concerned. Thankfully I don’t.[/quote]

Actually if you knew me IRL you'd appreciate that I'm a straight shooter who doesn't BS people to make myself look important.

Or maybe you wouldn't appreciate that . . .[/quote]

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