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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have a dog from lucky dog too. They’re basically a pipeline from SC shelters to here. I’m not at all sure about it. I think it just creates a market and then there’s no pressure to do anything locally to prevent so many unwanted dogs. These linked are older but the adoption event I went to was 75% pit puppies. I don’t have the sense they want to work themselves out of a job, if that makes sense. And I just don’t see why this is the best long term solution. [/quote] Market implies that they are making money. They are not. It would be wonderful if we could require the southern states to change their policies on neutering and dog ownership....how are you going to do that? Yep, it's absolutely a bandaid but what else are you suggesting be done? You should incredibly unaware of the situation.[/quote] What 'policies' do you propose that 'southern' states change ? What 'policies'do you have up north that have actually worked? And how the heck did the state take them over since animal control is generally handled at the county level?[/quote] If you look at Wolf Trap Rescue, they essentially took Booneville, Mississippi to almost no euthanization in the shelters. The policy is spay/neuter before adoption. And they do it young because the benefits outweigh the risks. You just want to be argumentative, but it’s both at the state and county level. Yes, counties control animal control for the most part, but state law comes in to play regarding animal abuse cases. [/quote] EVERY shelter requires spay/neuter before adoption, north/south, everywhere. That's been a thing for at least 4 decades. You tell me what exactly you think that 'southern states' need to do. [/quote] Actually many take a deposit and do it "on your honor". And guess what? People forget until their puppy is pregnant for the first time. Pediatric spay/neuter is a different policy. [/quote] It has never been 'on your honor' if the shelter didn't receive a verification from a vet, within the specified dates, the animal was reclaimed. I haven't seen it done that way in at least 20 years, though. I'm not everywhere, so, maybe there are some places that still do it that way. Surely not enough to account for massive pet overpopulation, though. Funny, though, lots of people on this site argue that their special doggo doesn't need to be neutered ever, you know, because they are responsible and don't want to harm his mental health or bone growth or whatever. Doesn't seem like a problem limited to poor Southern communities to me. [/quote] No shelter actually goes back to reclaim the animal if not spayed or neutered. I mean do you have any experience at all or just talking? There is a lot of controversy around sterilizing very young puppies (like 8 weeks and under) that are adopted out from these organizations. My brother just adopted a young puppy and it was not neutered before adoption - he indeed gave a deposit. And it's a very urban rescue. If you'd like to let us know the problem in the south and why their euthanisia rate is so much higher, we're all ears. [/quote] I don't claim to have a solution, just wanted to know what brilliant insight YOU could bring to the table since you said you had a great policy that is ignorant southern people could put in place and fix everything. Really would love to hear about it.[/quote] You don't want to hear anything, you just want to shoot everything down. I foster animals from the south. Pediatric spay/neuter so there is no chance of them ever reproducing. I can guarantee it's more than you are doing. [/quote]
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