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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is the complete opposite of what I learned while getting my MEd.[/quote]

I don’t think much of teacher education is grounded in reality these days.  That’s depressing.  And explains how we got the Lucy Caulkins crap spread around the country. [/quote]

You are conflating 2 things.

People learn better when it’s not for grades, more creative.

People learn rote information better when grades are hard.

It’s the different between knowing it and understanding it.[/quote]

I have to laugh when I read these kind of comments.  Children in the 1940s, 50s, 60s and part of the 70s were in large classes, practicing rote memorization in their younger years, "wasting" time on things like spelling and penmanship, etc. and being graded with bell curves, etc. but managed to propel the United States into the tech age and had plenty of creativity.  No, you can't "understand it" if you don't first "know it."

[b]Try having a political debate with kids in college now.  They have little factual knowledge/context to back up their "critical thinking."[/b]

This is just false.  I think you underestimate how much content knowledge people have.  It's just different now that we have access to a ton of information on the web--it's more distributed knowledge.  There's also a lot less assurance that what were "facts" are true--the textbooks of the earlier days were riddled with misinformation and bias but it wasn't known.  Now kids are taught to assess the quality of information sources.  I have found my kid in a basic public school education has acquired a lot of content knowledge.

Would it be better if kids were all internally motivated to learn as much as possible?  Sure, but you are in dreamland if you think that will motivate the bulk of the population.[/quote][/quote]

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