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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's a difficult issue. I'm a GS 14 and most of my direct reports make really similar money to me (they're high 13s), except I'm expected to buy them all lunches, give gifts at the holidays, bring in bagels often. I was glad when covid cut most of that out. I have 3 in daycare, so even $50 is a lot to me. At our annual BBQ, managers are expected to throw $100 in to purchase the room rental and food, plus make a dish.

Low level employees (GS7) get pretty angry when meetings roll into lunch and they can't really afford to order lunches in like everyone else.

Something that really annoys me are public meetings. We're expected to provide some sort of tray of food plus drinks. Where does that money come from? Yep, managers.

Gov is just kind of cheap.[/quote]

It’s definitely different if this is the situation but working in places where managers are SES or Regulators with incomes over $225K it’s different. They make $50K-$100K more than their Staff and $100 once a year seems chintzy, although I realize that they may not be as flush as it seems, they make way more and should theoretically be able to handle more than $100 a year.[/quote]

But why?! This doesn't happen in private sector companies. If your manager gets lunch, it's on the corporate credit card. Why is there an expectation that your manager buys lunch?

The majority of the fed workforce reports to a mid level manager who is likely GS13-15. The mid level managers are the ones who report to senior managers. Most senior managers only supervise other managers. [/quote]

Um, I worked in the private sector--consulting--and if I took my supervisees out to lunch I paid for it, I couldn't "expense" it. Birthday cakes, a couple of bottles of champagne to celebrate a big win, donuts for everyone working on a Sunday morning.....that's all senior staff out of pocket kind of stuff in the private sector too. [/quote]

Um, no! You must have worked for a contractor, not a consulting firm.[/quote]

I was a VP at a consulting firm. If it wasn't billable to a client, we paid for it ourselves. Taking the team out to lunch "just because" wasn't something our firm considered overhead, there were VPs who would have expensed lunch every day and driven up the indirect portion of our labor rates like crazy.[/quote]

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