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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Agree fundamentally -- you can't have a discussion about this without defining "religion."  I didn't see anything in that long post about aborigines that has anything to do with "religion." [/quote]

Uh... really? Just because what was described doesn't look like Sunday School?[/quote]

point out to me where anything described in that posts constitutes "religion." The ability to kill kangaroos aside, I didn't see anything that meets the definition of religion-- not that they didn't have one. Perhaps that PP could elaborate? [/quote]

Just because their religious beliefs and practices are not compartmentalized as we are in every aspect of modern Western life, does not mean they do not hold and practice profoundly religious beliefs. Religion refers to bond of social relations uniting individuals within a coherent cosmological world view. 
 
- Cosmological creation beliefs in Dream Time stories 
- Spiritual duties to preserving their ancestral lands 
- Spiritual duties to live in right relationship with family/ clan members 
- Strict religious Rules for who can marry who designed to respect their religious beliefs and culture  
- Religious Rules for who can eat what and in what order to respect for different social functions 
 
Non Western religions tend to focus on being part of collective life and culture as intimately connected to sacred natural environment rather than on individual experiences and beliefs within objectified religious traditions. They see themselves as spiritual custodians of nature rather than as having dominion over it. 
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fine, but I'm not sure "spirituality" is the same thing as "religion."  We had a long thread on this awhile back. Some people said they were religious but not spiritual.  Many said they were spiritual but not religious. [/quote]

There is no way to reconstruct stone age beliefs. There is every chance that there were belief systems that qualified as religion, but we'll never really know.[/quote]

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