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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is so heart wrenching. The slow twisting and the psychological manipulation. All of Santos money stuff and how his siblings were brought in. Making Claudia think she had poisoned people and then pimping her out to pay him back. Manipulating people into thinking they did things they did not do and the idea that you don't know what is true and what is false..... Each thing was worse than the last. And those friends who tried to stop it but couldn't break the hold.

Watching Felicia on the videos being so mentally unstable (and someone who had a loving family and multiple degrees), it is the stuff of nightmares. That even far away he was able to twist her to thinking she was being attacked and followed. Unreal.

In some ways, that goodness he was such a psycho and thought these tapes would exonerate him and he made and shared them. I don't think this would be as vivid and real for people without it, but it is wild that he had them.

I don't know what to think about Izzy. She is clearly a victim and clearly manipulated. But she did participate in these things. [b]Can you find someone culpable if they did participate in something because they are so manipulated? [/b][Full disclosure, I have about 30 min left so maybe they discuss this at the end][/quote]

Look up Patty Hearst[/quote]

This is the poster you quoted -- can you explain more? She was found guilty, but then her sentence was lowered (from 35 years to 7 years) and then she was presidentially pardoned. I feel like this supports my puzzlement. You CAN hold them responsible (in the legal way) but there does seem to be a reason not to or to recognize their extenuating circumstances. I think I was more speaking, ethically, morally, societally, can / should we hold someone accountable who acts "willingly" because they are so manipulated and brainwashed but they did do the thing and they knew they were doing it. But, they were a victim and would not have acted this way without the manipulation. It feels so tricky and hard and mentally sticky. Wondering what others think. 
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