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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]whether forced or voluntary, it's still segregation.[/quote]Yep, it's called "de facto" (happens despite lack of legally enforced segregation) and "de jure" (segregation by law). Totally not a new concept and de facto segregation still exists in DC, whatever you want to call it. [/quote]

You can call it whatever YOU like, but what it is is CHOICE, not segregation.  Whether you are black in low income housing in the 7th ward or otherwise, you have a choice.  You can work hard, study, learn, and get ahead, and have the freedom to do anything you like, or you can sit back, invest minimal effort in your own life and hope the DC safety nets of low income housing and other amenities continue to catch you. [/quote]Oh please, could you not get into a hissy fit about a technical term? Yes, de facto segregation is a technical term and there is plenty of choice involved. Just because there is a choice doesn't mean it's not segregation but if you're going to freak out over that word you're not going to get the distinction between de facto and de jure.

As well the history of housing and development policy shows that this country has been involved in shaping the housing market for decades in a way that encourages de facto segregation, so there are aspects of this where one's "choice" gets shaped for one. Take a look at Massey and Denton's book, American Apartheid, which outlines how this happened.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0674018214/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1337470635&sr=8-1

It is certainly possible to recognize all this without lapsing into lectures or fits of pique about victimhood. I don't even get why you're going on about poor black people in Ward 7. There's plenty of de facto segregation by the black and white middle classes in Wards 3 and 4. Besides there are lots of people in Ward 7 who are employed and work hard. [/quote]

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