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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A 3.6 from a private and full pay not getting into Colgate is very surprising.  I think it will be very difficult for my MoCo senior with a 4.2 weighted and 33 ACT to get in ED2 (we are full pay also).  Any thoughts from people?  Any stats people can share for the public school kids who may have gotten in last night?[/quote]

The 3.6 is likely the problem.  Colgate has gotten super competitive.  Last year overall acceptance was 12% (11.6%). DC is a current freshman and the ‘26 class is outstanding- heard about it ad nauseum at Family Weekend.  Applied RD from top private in DMV - 3.9, 1500, great academic and athletic ECs incld 4 sport varsity athlete and captain but no true hook. Essay received praise from admissions so that helped.  If that was last year this year bound to be tougher. I have no clue what weighed GPAs actually are but 4.2 sounds low. DC has hasamet other freshman at Colgate from most of the top DMV privates and one from BCC but no other area publics.[/quote]

Wouldn't a 3.9 from a top private have put your kid in the top 5 students in that class and made him/her Ivy material? [/quote]

It sounds like that’s what happened: a bunch of DMV private school kids who were classic Ivy material applied SCEA/ED to Ivies, got rejected because the Ivies are all experimenting with TO, and applied RD to Colgate, which scooped up as many as it could and is now bragging ad nauseam about its unusually strong freshman class. [/quote]

Ding ding ding. PP here and this exactly. And not just with Class of ‘26 at Colgate. TO has changed everything and a 1500(750V/750M) is mediocre because only kids with 1450+ submit now. Thankfully DC is happy but it was a crap fall/winter last year in our house. These private school kids are told if they earn top grades in hardest classes and spend their free time on worthy endeavors they are Ivy material. No longer true - it’s a pure crap shoot w/TO unless you are hooked. My DC wanted NE only and not too big (no Cornell or Penn) but not under 2,000 so limited T20 options outside Ivies and no to most of NESCAC. Colgate was a last minute application, the final one, at my suggestion. Alum network is famously strong and it has great grad/med/law school placement.  I was worried Colgate would be too small but DC loves the size rn. We shall see what happens down the road but thanking the stars at this point.

As for those discussing grade inflation at public v private - of course some privates do. The cited Study doesn’t differentiate and a private in Louisville or Baton Rouge is very different from one in DC or NYC.  Heck the ones in our area run the gamut from seriously intense to super chill. MCPS, FCPS and other publics definitely do, the availability of retesting is infamous. The best privates do not, you get what you earn. You can argue and refer to all the studies you want but the college AOs know what’s what re grade inflation and specific schools. And I’m not suggesting privates give kids a leg up anywhere. I’m sure it hurts in many cases. But lots of top colleges have higher percentage of students from privates than the percentage in general college population.  Doubt it’s all about ability to pay. [/quote]

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