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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Business prof again: Of course there are good schools like Penn/Wharton and Cornell with undergrad business. Others like Princeton and Northwestern have economics and applied economics with a lot of business overlap. Those students have no trouble getting business jobs. Northwestern has cold winters. Brown strikes me as a pleasant, liberal arts environment. They have an economics major. I would not want my kid in NYC, but some people would love Columbia. These considerations override any differences in rankings. I would rather have a happy business graduate from UVA than a homesick dropout from an expensive school.[/quote] I have been working in financial services for the past twenty five years, the first five years with GS and the past fifteen years with BoA, Carlyle, and Blackstone. The school where you attended only matters if you don't know anyone there and you still have a big hurdle to climb; however, most of the candidates at those firms already have inside connections. The reason I got a shot at GS was because one of my best friends' father was a SVP at GS. I also went to a no name university but I got the job at GS because of the connection.[/quote] OP here. I know you're right about the connection. So if we're a family with no connection, does that mean my dc needs to go to Harvard to have a chance?[/quote] ugh :roll: and my brother graduated with a MATH degree from UVA and then went to a top MBA school a few years later and has been working at all the big banks on Wall Street his entire career. No, the choice is not between Harvard and connections. [/quote] Connection and social skills will trump grades and where you attend college. There are many ways to make connections and improve your social skills. Anyone with a college degree can do a finance job, tt is not difficult at all. The key is how to get into the door. [/quote] Lol this is flat out false. Where you attend school is how you get into the door for high finance/consulting. And if your school is towards the bottom of the list of target schools, like UVA, then high grades is the key to getting into the door. Not "anyone" can do the work in high finance and consulting. The work may seem trivial but the amount of work and the high degree of competence in executing it separates those who can do the work and those who can't. Plenty of very intelligent kids who get into the Ivies burn out after a year in Wall Street. [/quote] Let me debunk this myth for you as someone who has worked, and still is, for multiple financial services. My employer's current CEO graduated from Hamilton College and my current boss is a former graduate from Mississippi state University. My division has about 60% of former D1 athletes from Clemson, South Carolina, Florida State, and I am pretty sure they didn't graduate at the top of their class, quite on the contrary. These people have unbelievable work ethics and exceptional social skills. They all have connections prior to working here. One of my former bosses graduated with a 3.0 GPA with a degree in communications and he run the highly profitable trading division. [/quote]
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