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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Echoing the other posters but I’m Asian American and all Asian Americans I know who support AA have already gone to college/med school and don’t have kids. And I’d say it’s more of a 60/40 split of against/for AA.

I agree the article is very insulting to Asian Americans, trying to paint us as having been tricked by conservatives. Many Asians, including immigrants, actually are proud and happy conservatives themselves. [/quote]

It's not "insulting. " It's the truth.

Asians are being used by conservative groups in an "us versus them" ploy.

And if you REALLY look at the Harvard SCOTUS case, the[b] alleged discrimination against Asians on personal ratings, while proven untrue, has [b] nothing  to do with affirmative action itself[/b].[/b]

When affirmative action is banned next year, do personal ratings under holistic admissions get banned too? No. Because the personal ratings have nothing to do with race.

The SFFA is using apparent Asian " why aren't we getting into Harvard in higher percentages" grievance to ban race-conscious admissions.[/quote]
DP.. disagree with bolded. Until you can provide evidence that shows that URM were given low "likeability" scores having never met the applicant at a similar rate to Asian Am. students, what Harvard is doing there is very much relevant.  It is very much on point regarding the discrimination.   Harvard had to find a way to give the Asian Am. applicants lower scores. They couldn't do that for academics, extra curriculuars, leadership, so they picked something that is completely subjective and easy to fudge: likeability.

This is *exactly* the method that Harvard used to weed out Jews back in the 1920s, so don't tell me a college wouldn't do that. They probably think it's fine to do that because in this case they are trying to admit a URM group rather than not. Regardless, the ends does not justify the means.  It was a discriminatory practice then and it's a discriminatory practice now.

I have zero problems giving first gen, low income students priority, but *not by race alone*.[/quote]

Different issue than affirmative action.

IF Asians - as a group, not as individuals-  were discriminated against in the case ( lower courts said no) with these personal ratings, it would be because of their race, no?

IF true, it would imply that the affirmative action narrowly used to consider race one of many factors in college admissions, is still needed to protect Asians - from racial discrimination.

If affirmative action is banned, the personal rating methodology still remains. [/quote]

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