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I think you're exaggerating the turnover at Paramount. Their top players do not leave, and if they had as much turnover as you are implying and are as over the top as you are implying, how do their teams have so much success? My DD has attended clinics there but we know she'd probably never make their team. While there have certainly been girls at Paramount who have quit over the years, I'd say the vast majority of the turnover is new talent replacing the bottom half of talent on the teams from the previous season. If Paramount's top talent was hemorrhaging every season, how could they possibly be at the point where all their teams earned bids to USAV Nationals the past two seasons (Metro is the only other club to do this)? How is Paramount the only club in the region besides Metro actually competing and winning at the open level? The players who quit Paramount/Metro/Jrs are usually the players who are not getting the playing time they want (for example, Jrs 17s team two years ago had 6 girls quit before Nationals, not because of intense coaching but because of the games the coach played and the empty promises left on the table). Metro will stick 15 players on all their travel teams, and there are always 4-5 players who never see the court (Metro 16s coach is the most maniacal coach in the entire region, imo). And yet, those girls scratch and claw to get on and stay on all those club's teams. But as PP said, the great thing about our region is there are options for everybody; if you don't like the intense style, there are plenty of quality options besides Metro and Paramount. If you want to play D1 AND win, though, Metro and Paramount are separating themselves from the rest at this point in time (Metro obviously the cream of the crop as of now). You can get one without the other at some of the other clubs in our area (e.g., the recruiting without the winning, like at VAE), but imo Metro and Paramount are the only two where you can get the winning and the recruiting at this moment in time.[/quote]

Bless your heart.  Until your DD actually plays a season or two at Paramount, you have no idea what you are talking about.  Metro same.  Ask me how I know.[/quote]

It actually takes a lot for any team (and I include metro in this), to attract the starters from any one of Jnrs, VAE or Paramount - aside from only a couple of cases I kenow of, the kids moving around are generally those that didn’t play much, so I would venture to say - none of the starters at Paramount went anywhere. The answer to your question Re bids is simple - in my opinion, the Paramount coaching staff is by far the best in the region - they get much more with less than the other clubs, and no my DD has never played at Paramount but I have seen them across the net. There was a time when Paramount took a lot of other club’s castoffs (mainly Jnrs and VAE) and moulded them into fantastic teams. Playing in open is not for the faint of heart but it is where kids get tested against the best of the best and Metro has been the standout for the last 8 years. If I am correct, Paramount only started playing in open last year and did very well. VAE usually is quite competitive in open at 17 and 18s but below that is a car crash. Jnrs play in a lesser division and that is one of the reasons for their slide in recent years - the region’s parents are becoming much more savvy on how the recruiting process works and, for the most part, playing in division 4 doesn’t do much.[/quote]

+1 excellent points. No doubt the Paramount coaching staff pushes their players, and some players aren't comfortable with that (and that's okay, as there are good options in our area). But like you said, there's no doubt that the Paramount coaching staff is among the best (if not the best) in the region. Metro from top to bottom has insane athletes (and Paramount does too, and VAE to a lesser extent), but there is no doubt when comparing the clubs in terms of how well-coached and well-trained they are,Paramount exceeds Metro and this is why Paramount has clearly solidified itself as the 2nd best club in the area and is nipping on the heels of Metro. Everybody knows how great the training is at Paramount, and while they are tough, you know your kid is going to get good. This is why Paramount's 17s and 13s teams each beat Metro last season. Paramount's U15 team earned an Open Bid to USAV Nationals two years ago, and their 16s and 17s teams this season each had multiple top 10 finishes in the Open Division of qualifiers and narrowly missed out on Open Bids. 3 seasons ago VAE's 18s team earned an Open Bid, but none of their teams have even gotten close since then. Wouldn't surprise me if all of Paramount's  teams are playing in Open this season.

Jrs is definitely on the decline, as you mentioned parents are getting smarter and savvier. Smart parents want their kids to be testing themselves against the best players in the country, not playing in the lower divisions of qualifiers because you're afraid of competition. Jrs has weakened VAE, but there's no doubt which club is of higher quality. 
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