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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"Nuance" is how "anti" groups attempt to veil their biases. But i[b]f you ask certain churches that claim "all are welcome" if they have gay people in leadership roles or if they would perform a wedding for a couple in which one member is nonbinary, [/b]you find out the truth pretty fast, assuming you can pry a yes-no answer out of them.

Does Rives think a school's first duty is to the well-being of the student, or should parental preferences outweigh that?[/quote]

Welcoming and inclusive does not mean a church or a person has to give-up the foundational tenets of their faith. Nuance is indeed essential. It's not all or nothing.  Everyone can be welcomed into a church community but the faith and teachings of that church will also indicate that not all people get to play all roles.  Leadership roles are iffy for me:  I think all people should be able to be in the leadership positions. But if a church upholds that marriage is only between a CIS -male and female, that's their perrogative. A couple can be married legally and participate in the church community. They just won't have that marriage recognized by their church. If they disagree with that, they can leave the church.  Just because someone, or a church, doesn't grant the full range of entitlements you believe they should doesn't mean they're hypocritcal.[/quote]

I didn't say they were hypocritical. A private group can set up whatever terms it wants. But someone deciding to attend that church deserves to know whether that church welcomes them wholeheartedly to the life of the church, or if they're welcome on a more limited basis than other members.

The Arlington Turkey Trot is/was sponsored by the Presbyterian Church, which donates some of the proceeds to Young Life. Young Life used to be overtly anti-LGBTQ+ but the optics were bad, so the description of the group has changed. It's dishonest. You don't want gay people having sex, say it. [/quote]

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