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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Look at increase in urm and first gen admissions under test optional. You think not correlated? Don’t be stupid. For a group that likes to claim that early decision rates needs to be reconsidered for legacy and athletic admits, kind of funny that there is unwillingness to admit that test optional admit rates inflated by hooked students as well.[/quote] This statement makes me think you're either willfully ignorant or don't have a junior deciding whether/how much to prep or a senior currently applying to college. As PPs noted, the decision is school and score dependent, especially given the rapid increase in the scores submitted.[/quote]

I do have a senior applying this year,  trying to save some of you all from jumping off a cliff.

There is a lot of willful blindness to logic here.  Before pushing your kid into the test optional category, it makes sense to consider whether test optional is going to help them.  Look at the test optional admit rate and look at the increase in first gen/ urm admissions in the same time period.  In many cases, at top schools, it is a disadvantage for kids to be test optional if they are NOT so hooked and therefore a mistake to push them into test optional category if their test scores are very close to the median.  If their test scores are very low but gpa is high, obviously test optional is often the only time a kid may have a chance.[/quote]

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