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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP, I agree.  I tend to drive about 5 miles over the speed limit on windy two-lane roads where there is no passing (like the ones through Clifton).  I can't tell you the number of times some jackass in a black pickup truck has tailgated me for miles and then flipped me off when he finally passed.  I pull over to let faster drivers go by where I can but that is not always possible.  And it's not like I am driving under the speed limit.

On the Beltway, I tend to go about 70-75 without traffic and stay in the right lanes.  Same exact dynamic, and it is always, always, always some angry white dude.  I'm a nondescript, mom-aged white woman driving a nondescript (not fancy) gray SUV with no bumper stickers, so it's not like there is something racial or political going on.

But it's not just here.  I was in Wilmington, Delaware with kids in the back of my car and had a guy in a huge work truck tailgate me and then hang out the window to flip me off and yell "f- you" at me.  This was on a multilane road in the middle of the day, so he easily could have passed me.  He just wanted to intimidate me.

So much anger out there.[/quote]
 
Intimidation is a good word …

Agree there does not seem to be a race or ethnicity thing but misogynist venting  .., All the aggressive drivers who went overboard with cussing me out and hand gestures were males of different ages and ethnicities - aggressive young Latino men, middle aged white dudes, older Middle eastern guy, and more. To be fair, Black drivers may have driven aggressively around me and played super loud music that thunders at stop lights but that demo has never cussed me out or given me the drunken sailor’s royal salute.

I wonder whether DMV drivers should be required to pass a [b]basic road civility test[/b]? [/quote]

Right AFTER we require a basic road driving test that looks at real-world scenarios, like merging/existing off the highway, staying in the right lane except when passing, paying attention to the cars around you, etc.

Once we get that taken care of then we can worry about "civility". 
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They are not mutually exclusive [/quote]

Driving proficiently >>>>> civility

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False dichotomy ..,,

Civility contributes enormously to safer driving - not taking ridiculous risks to get one car ahead/ minimizing tail gating and road rage/ maintaining safe spaces between self and others on road/ allowing two lanes to merge in order/ yielding where required etc.

Courtesy requires paying attention to others on road and maintaining basic courtesy requires greater awareness of, and respect for, other drivers.

Maintaining safe distances behind other cars is both courteous and safer, especially
On wet roads. [/quote]

BS.

You driving like crap is going to cause an accident. Not someone giving you the middle finger because you’re driving like crap.

The root issue is the bad driving. Not the middle finger.

Reminds me of the thread about north/south. Southerners are polite but not kind. Northerners are not polite but kind. In the end, politeness doesn’t matter, kindness does. Similarly, middle fingers don’t matter, competent driving does.

[b]If multiple people are cursing at you or giving you the middle finger, YOU are the problem.[/b] Learn how to drive before you cause an accident. 
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This isn’t necessarily true. I keep to the right, go somewhat above the speed limit where possible and don’t tailgate. I still get people swerving in and out, riding up on my bumper, cutting in front of me by a hairsbreadth and otherwise pretending they’re starting in “Gone in 60 Seconds” in the middle of rush hour.  People like that seem to resent sharing the road with anyone, except perhaps as an audience for their self-perceived “skill.” [/quote]

The PP was specifically talking about people who take the time to (a) curse at her and/or (b) give her the middle finger. That's not typical. 
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Huh?  Many friends say they experience this all the time on DMV roads … several PPs indicated as much here as well. [/quote]

Honking, sure. Occasional middle finder, OK. But someone slowing down or stopping to CURSE at you? Multiple times? Not normal. 
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