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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Purposefully keeping people of one religion out because you don't like them is very different than keeping racial balances even in your cohort to better achieve your mission.  To insinuate that they are the same is ignorant and insulting.

One is done specifically, to a specific group (Jewish is not a race, BTW) and one is going to naturally seem like a disadvantage to whichever race is over-represented in the applicant pool and seem like a benefit to whichever race is under-represented.

If any one race stopped applying to Stanford, their admissions rate would shoot up.  If another race applied in much larger numbers, their rate would drop.  Regardless of what race it is.  Is that racism then?

Under-represented is the key.  For any race, at any school where they are under-represented that seeks balance in their admissions policies.

I understand it [i]seems [/i]unfair - this whole process is unfair in a lot of ways - but the alternative is worse.[/quote]

CalTech is color blind and mostly merit based.
Asian: 35%
White: 23%
Hispanic: 22%
Mixed 9%
International: 8%
Black: 3%

Male: 55%
Female: 45%

Females and minorities in the school are extremely proud because everybody knows they got no extra help 
There's no problem with this as long as it was fair and everyone got same opportunity as an individual. 
This is way to go for higher education. No need for artificial racial quota.   [/quote]

Yes, Caltech, a private institution, has chosen their own criteria for admission.  A quick glance shows that AA is only 3% while they are 13.6% of the population, and all other races are severely under-represented except Asians and Hispanics.  Any freshman year stats student could make that case that is evidence of extreme racial bias somewhere.

But the reason few complain about it is that Caltech gets to chose whoever they want for whatever reason as long as they do not break the law.  Like it or not.  People respect those that run Caltech, believe they know what is best for Caltech, and do not believe they are racists, even though the statistics would strongly indicate otherwise.  They KNOW it isn't racism even though at first glance it appears to be so.

See?

/oh and you patronizing comment about "[i]Females and minorities in the school are extremely proud because everybody knows they got no extra help[/i]" is disgusting, racist and sexist.  You probably are also.[/quote]

Is the race of a student negatively impacted in the admission decision?
If yes, then that's racism and discrimination.  No individual need to suffer that.
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